Thanks for the feedback Bob. I just emailed DragonWave Support as well. Best,
Brad -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... I would think no BUT Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with an outdoor modem unit. The gain may be set real low and when you finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you may not work. Call tech support to find out for sure. It won't cost you anything and they will know for sure. Or send them an e-mail: supp...@dragonwaveinc.com Good Luck -B- Brad Belton wrote: > Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. > Thanks again Tom! > > These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client > looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case > we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement > expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear > for new Trango gear. > > It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm > considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on > our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does > anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? > > Thanks! > > > Brad > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... > > Brad, > > I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. > > My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll > need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need > more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but > it's still workable. > > Randy > > > On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > >> Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to >> > have > >> a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? >> >> It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a >> cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable >> that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other >> side. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Brad Belton >> BelWave Communications >> O: 817-737-3124 #101 >> F: 817-336-7031 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Randy Cosby >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and >> > feedback... > >> We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another >> used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would >> think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. >> >> Randy >> >> >> On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: >> >> >>> Hello Randy, >>> >>> Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each >>> >>> >> side >> >> >>> of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? >>> >>> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way >>> inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the >>> proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: >>> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power& operate the ODU over the >>> > 50'-200' > >>> >>> >> of >> >> >>> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? >>> >>> Thanks for the feedback! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> Brad >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and >>> >>> >> feedback... >> >> >>> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... >>> >>> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port >>> inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. >>> We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system >>> - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf >>> and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + >>> ethernet up on one cable. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hello Kristian, >>>> >>>> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> small >>> >>> >>> >>>> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> some >>> >>> >>> >>>> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> basic >>> >>> >>> >>>> field requirements. >>>> >>>> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using >>>> > on > >>>> >>>> >>> a >>> >>> >>> >>>> job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom >>>> DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> custom >>> >>> >>> >>>> cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! >>>> >>>> Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we >>>> decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> >>>> Brad >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann >>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> feedback... >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any >>>>> feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for >>>> when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of >>>> fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the >>>> effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, >>>> but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead >>>> of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you >>>> get the latest firmware if you can. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any >>>>> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email >>>>> > with > >>>>> prices on cable length options. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. >>>> Something along the lines of this... >>>> >>>> http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% >>>> 20detail&itemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary >>>>> cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -Kristian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >>> >>> >>>> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >>> >>> >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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