Hyperlink is still around... L-Com. It's not really the vendor's fault. Realistically there could be applications where an amp is needed, i.e. long coax runs, smaller antennas, etc. It really is up to the operator to make sure they are in compliance.
Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS!!!!! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > Marlon, > > I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise > you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up > 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over > 50watts EIRP. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > > I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO > to > > call. > > I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd > drop > > his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator..... > > When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told > him > that there was nothing they could do. > > I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the > consumer complaint folks. > > He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, > clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the > good > > guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also > able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the > complaint. > > This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd > heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough > along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. > > 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation > in > > order first. > > It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we > can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over > the > allowable power levels. > > For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, > legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger > antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get > that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better > ears > also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also > means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which > means less interference etc. etc. etc. > > laters, > marlon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lakeland" <lakel...@gbcx.net> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > > >> Marlon, >> >> You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and >> could >> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp >> calling >> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office >> you >> usually only get the recorded TV interference message. >> >> Maybe I'm just totally wrong. >> >> -B- >> >> >> >> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >> >>> Hmmmm, I've had much better luck that than Bob. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lakeland" <lakel...@gbcx.net> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>> >>> >>>> Sorry I side with Travis. >>>> >>>> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, >>>> Philly >>>> and >>>> DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and >>>> workforce >>>> they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections >>>> that >>>> they are required by law to do. >>>> >>>> There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless they >>>> are >>>> causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or some >>>> other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint >>>> between >>>> two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved. >>>> >>>> Thats the reality of the matter. >>>> >>>> -B- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerry Richardson writes: >>>> >>>>> Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky wheel >>>>> gets the grease. >>>>> >>>>> Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending >>>>> ISP, >>>>> previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case. >>>>> >>>>> Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are >>>>> affecting >>>>> other legitimate users of the band. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:38 PM >>>>> To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>>> >>>>> Negative. I know of an ISP using 5 watt amps on 2.4ghz omni antennas. >>>>> They have been reported several times to the FCC, and nothing happens. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> Microserv >>>>> >>>>> Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: >>>>>> On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is >>>>>>> intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get >>>>>>> involved >>>>>>> but it will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong >>>>>>> enough case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> if they are using amps, then the FCC would get involved. >>>>>> >>>>>> leon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > ---- >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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