I believe that when history looks back at the current internet kids it will be judged as a lost generation.
------Original Mail------ From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:24:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids If YOU came to me about something your kid was doing on MY system *I* would try to help you out as much as I could. But then again, I'm not a mega corp either. To me your kid is more valuable than the money I'd loose by running off a few customers..... marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids My soon to be 4 and 7 yo boys have iMacs. They are locked down and just do not know about that stuff yet. I removed access to the web browser in the PSP cause the oldest found it. He does not know how to use it (or so I think). The best parents can do these days is be very proactive which you seam to be trying to do. I do not know the legalities of monitoring a kids device, i leave that up to parents and their lawyers. There are key loggers for pretty much everything out there, VPN's to make sure the data comes back to you first, and so on. Talk to your lawyer. If your child has access to these services from another location then I would assume access from there will or has been used. Find out if so and who owns it, you might be able to access much of that history from there. Also the great way back machine and google cache can often have copies of peoples pages. Talk with your lawyer. If I came to you and said your site had given access to my minor, how would your advisers tell you to respond? Likely to fluff me off as fast as possible to avoid any liability. It could take a simple request from a letter head to get them moving on it, or possibly real threat of legal action. Did I mention, talk to your lawyer. S/He will be the best source of information for correct surveilla^R^R parenting of digital children. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having email > addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having myspace, > facebook etc. sites. > > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on. > > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can > delete things from. > > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that > might > bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually forgetting the > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. > > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail email > address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I finally > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd > been > saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I > got > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I didn't know > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the net > and > work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) > > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the > deleted > information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden > from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address. > > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. However > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! They had NO > proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the child was > over > 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account > information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told. > > WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. > > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids > these > days? > > thanks > marlon > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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