What turned you off to Dragonwave?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Kennedy <adamkenn...@omnicity.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:40:59 
To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?

What issues did you have with Nera? We were looking to go with them due to
the issues we have had with Ceragon. We looked at Dragonwave as well but
several things turned us off of them. I don't know of any other big players
that can do 200+ mbit with options of 11Ghz, 6Ghz and external antennas (We
also use Andrews).


On 4/20/10 1:32 PM, "Rubens Kuhl" <rube...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Prior to be replaced with Ceragon, most of the radios were Nera (bad
> choice) with Andrew antennas (good choice). The Andrew antennas had
> better alignment controls and, most important, better fixation and
> waterproofing. Andrew antennas also had more diameter options, like
> having three-feet, not just two or four-feet.
>
>
> Rubens
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
> wrote:
>>> regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered
>>> both and the decision was based on price... :-(
>>
>> Why do you dislike the RFS antenna compared to the Andrews?
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rubens Kuhl" <rube...@gmail.com>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?
>>
>>
>> Only good experience with them. The radios just work. Some were 11
>> GHz, some were 18 GHz, only one or two 7.5 GHz.
>> Throughput matched the nominal 200/300/400 Mbps for small packets; for
>> large packets, 170 out of 200 Mbps and 360 out of 400 Mbps; those
>> values are consistent with "IP-based" (not SDH/PDH) radios (they are
>> not 140 or 155 Mbps multiples), but is the total opposite of what we
>> would usually expect, as it is easier for the radio to deal with small
>> packets, not harder. Considering the Internet traffic has 50% of 64
>> bytes packets, that would make the I-mix throughput pretty close to
>> nominal; the monitoring software has RMON capabilities so you can see
>> your packet size distribution in real time.
>>
>> Adaptive modulation worked hitless for reducing speed during rain
>> periods, but not every time it would go up again. It was a 50-50
>> chance that ACM would bring the modulation up again, so it's an index
>> you want to be looking at your NOC.
>>
>> We did some firmware upgrades without issues; license upgrades were
>> trickier and sometimes Ceragon had to generate license files again
>> after we've sent the output from the failed upgrades.
>>
>> Except for 7.5 GHz units all the models had integrated antennas; we
>> regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered
>> both and the decision was based on price... :-(
>>
>> Rubens
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
>> <paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com> wrote:
>>> Just curious,
>>>
>>> what about Ceragon? Any good/bad experience with them?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>> We just did a multi leg 11 Ghz system, 2 21 miles plus links. We are in
>>>> rain zone N so lets see how they hold.
>>>>
>>>> Used Trango Apex with 4.75 dishes (Trango Branded) Rssi was as expected
>>>> in the low 50's. Full 256 QAM (260 + Mbps)
>>>>
>>>> Did I mention both were over water? You cant go wrong with Trango o DW
>>>> Horizon
>>>>
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>> 787.273.4143
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Scott Carullo
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:24 AM
>>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?
>>>>
>>>> Looking for options...
>>>>
>>>> Trango Apex is on top of my list for now. If that needs to change let
>>>> me
>>>> know... thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Kinda sticking to 11Ghz because I need to keep the dishes at 4ft or
>>>> under.
>>>> In Florida. Any other better options let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time
>>>>
>>>> Scott Carullo
>>>> Brevard Wireless
>>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>>
>>>>
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