A-Men, all this $hit started years ago and I do not know if a Democrat or 
Republican was in office when it started. All I know is that the FCC has been 
behind the big guys for at least close to 10 years or longer! Time for a change.

Scottie

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected], WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Date:  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:43:13 -0400

>I don't have a problem with what you have stated... however your first 
>sentence is rather in-accurate...
>
>"The operating ideology of the current Congress, President, and 
>associated agencies which deeply affect our business,"
>
>Ask any of the Wireline Service Providers, they will tell you things 
>started many years ago... what you are seeing is the result of actions 
>taken by the previous administration...
>
>If you state your message as in "Hey the Gov has been moving in a 
>direction that is going to put us on the short end of the stick".. I am 
>sure you are not going to get much argument... and also be prepared to 
>answer the next question..."What should we be doing about it ?"
>
>I don't know if your are doing this on purpose or without realizing... 
>when you start attributing what is happening now to the current 
>administration ....then guess what Pal.. you are showing up pretty late 
>to the party....
>
>Throwing tantrums about politics on the list, is what most folks get 
>annoyed with.... While, Stating facts about a bill that has been passed, 
>and about what obligations it produces on all of us in the years down 
>the road is valid and valuable info......presenting it as a 'we are 
>getting snookerd by the current folks in charge', is like crying over 
>split milk.
>
>Go back and look at the FCC for the past 12 years, and one cannot help 
>realize that they have never been 'friends' of the smaller service 
>providers, weather it was Republicans in charge or Democrats. 
>Republicans have clearly demonstrated, that they like to support Big Business 
>who give them a lot of money and promise them cushy jobs after 
>they get out of office... The Democrats tend to look thru thier Rose 
>colored glasses, on behalf of the people, as if they know what is good 
>for them. 
>
>Guess what.. if you are a small business, service provider, you get screwed 
>either way...
>
>Want to convert your frustrations into action ? go make Trips to DC and 
>give your favorite representative an earful.
>
>Faisal  
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "MDK" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>Date:  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:13:21 -0700
>
>>The operating ideology of the current Congress, President, and 
>associated agencies which deeply affect our business, our industry, our 
>ability to even BE in business is definitely of no concern when it comes 
>to us as wireless operators.    
>>
>>Got it. 
>>
>>And with that I remind you that sticking your head in the sand does NOT 
>stop the waves from crashing over you.  
>>
>>This is the single most important thing, PERIOD, in our long term 
>ability to remain in business, feed ourselves, etc.   Yet, it is 
>"bothersome" to you all? 
>>
>>I am dumbfounded.    Discussions about WiMax vs UBNT vs 802.11 or 
>license-lite or even the best networking standards and construction 
>standards are all important, but they mean absolutely nothing if we 
>experience a global version of Greece and Portugal's recent little 
>debacles.    Do you know how far we are from it?    Inches.   Literally.    
>The United States government has a lower credit rating than a number of 
>large financial firms.    If you do not comprehend what that means, and 
>how utterly imperative it is that WHOLESALE political change happen 
>IMMEDIATELY, then you're just whistling in the dark.   
>>
>>This list, if it manages to survive after one of those, will be little 
>more than each of us sharing our "collapse" story.   
>>
>>How that can possibly be separated from "business", and we're all in 
>"business" is... well, it cannot be.  Either we become political, or we 
>all suffer. 
>>
>>Currency collapse, or national default would INSTANTLY end most 
>importation ,and we, as WISP's would be so utterly out of luck - and out 
>of everything else, too. 
>>
>>If you're going to be so closed minded as to think you need pay no 
>attention, then you deserve the consequences.  
>>
>>But I DO NOT deserve the consequences of your failure to use a little 
>gray matter, nor does anyone else.   As businesspeople, WE ARE 
>supposedly the leadership of our nation.    There IS NO SPACE between 
>business and politics at this moment.   Business IS politics, as the 
>politicians have decided to control business and the economy.   I don't 
>care if you don't like it.   I don't care if you want to pretend you can 
>ignore it.   I don't care if you don't agree with my ideology, but 
>unless we are ALL willing to stick up for our ability to operate a 
>business, we'll have none.   
>>
>>I have NOT gone looking for this fight.    YOU did not go looking for 
>this fight.   They brought the fight to us, and we're now the bad guys 
>in the world.   They brought the fight, they brought the big guns ,and 
>they bring the laws, and they have brought into almost every detail of 
>your daily business now.   Why on earth do you think you can 'put it on 
>another list'?    There's not some other plane of business we can 
>operate on where reality isn't going to intrude.  
>>
>>Welcome to hell.   Either we all fight like it, or we're all going to 
>live like it. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>From: Jack Unger 
>>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:47 AM
>>To: WISPA General List 
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: You're going to love this... New IRS rules]
>>
>>
>>Hello RickG, 
>>
>>Thank-you for expressing your opinion. The following is my opinion. 
>>
>>The tax information from WISPA's accountant that Rick Harnish followed 
>up with and provided to the list is certainly useful and authoritative 
>information that every WISP should know. 
>>
>>Posters to this free (open to non-Members) list and to any WISPA list 
>for that matter need to have the maturity to understand the difference 
>between useful business-related information and personal, opinionated 
>political posturing. Mark Koskenmaki has unfortunately demonstrated over 
>and over again throughout the years that he is unable to separate his 
>WISP business-related posts from his personal, anti-government political 
>posts. I addressed my concern about his latest post in a private, off-
>list email to Rick Harnish. 
>>
>>I won't waste anyone's time by re-posting Mark's latest political 
>ranting that I consider to be wildly out-of-line. I will however 
>continue to speak up when serial offenders such as Mark (i.e., "muddy 
>frogwater") continue to post content on WISPA lists that, in reality, 
>belongs elsewhere, on a political list.
>>
>>
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