Man that sucks.  We turn off upnp on ALL routers.  I've always been told 
that it's a big security hole.

Thoughts on that?
marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP


I don't seem to have any issues with double or triple NAT.

When I was working with MT to fix the upnp issue with Xboxes. I have
it marked as 4.6 with modifications (it was an unofficial 4.6 they
gave me) so I would say 4.7 or higher should enable Xbox upnp.  Even
this requires a public IP on the Mikrotik to remove even nice strict
(I think it's called open?).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote:
> So does anyone here have any customers that use XBOX live and bark to you
> about you NAT? Apparently the XBOX live service is very picky about being
> behind any NAT device and its ability to make connections to other 
> servers.
> From what I gathered is that the LIVE service uses Universal Plug and Play
> (UPnP) to get around this but the question I have is. If your doing
> masquerade on a Mikrotik Core Router should you enable UPnP on that 
> device?
> Or should I just issue public IP’s to the customer that games and let them
> worry about it? And if you have UPnP enabled on the core router and then 
> do
> a double-NAT through the customers Linksys router with UPnP enable does 
> that
> not work because of the double-NAT?
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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