If you don't NEEED three phase, don't install it.

The metering is more complex, there are 3 transformers, and the basic
monthly bill is probably more expensive as they pass their costs of the
complexity on to you.

 

Someone wrote about the "Demand Meter" with the peak indicator, and I wanted
to clear up one thing that was said.

Demand meters usually work on a 15 or 50 (and rarely 60) minute period. If
you exceed the highest peak of use during any of these periods, your billing
rate ratchets up.

This rate remains for a period, sometimes as long as 13 months, during which
your per KWH charge is higher.  

It does not cause you to be billed the same total amount whether or not you
use it- it only affects the RATE.

These are called demand charges and supposedly go to offset the cost of the
extra cost they incurred to handle your little spike.

 

I used to be the lead Field Engineer for a company that specialized in
reading the meter pulses and predicting the demand minute by minute so that
the system could shed load in order to keep from hitting a new 30 minute
demand.  It was really amazing- I could set the demand limit and then watch
as it cycled fans, compressors, lights and other energy users to keep that
demand down. We even built a box that controlled the load on big A/C
chillers, which basically turned the water temperature up a degree or so
until the prediction went down.  This gear was in large buildings:
hospitals, schools, factories, arenas, etc.

 

The worst case I ever saw (or the easiest one to sell) was a Hercules plant
in Louisiana, where a single peak overage cost them 0ne million dollars over
the next 13 months!

 

Ralph

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

 

Putting together a new NOC.  The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we
ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels.  Total
gut job.  Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and
service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building.
Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects
against power surges since it adds another transformer.  

 

My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a
proactive thing?  Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power
company Godz?  (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine)  

 

Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble   Not
one.  Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one
that didn't involve the lottery..  Figures.

 

Bob-

 

 


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