Here is what we are currently doing. Radio<------>Shielded/shrieen cable-->Shielded Surface Mount Jack--> Passive POE (Shielded) ---->Ethernet Surge Protector (APC PNET4)/Grounded --->Non-Shielded patch cable --->MK 750G.
Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom On 9/12/2010 7:19 PM, RickG wrote: > Faisal, You plug your radios directly into the routers? Do you use > Ethernet surge protectors between them? Are they grounded? Shielded cable? > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I have Mikrotik 750 / 750G, with Multiple Rocket M5 for a typical POP.. > > I am not getting any packet loss, when doing pings from the MK to Rocket > M5, with the timeout changed to 100. > > Regards. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > On 9/11/2010 8:52 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > > Rick: > > > > Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that > > have a Rocket plugged into them? If you do, open up Winbox, go to > > tools, Ping. Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket. > Do you > > have any lost packets? We're seeing 2-7% packet loss. Are you using > > 100mbit? Through the air, everything is fine. I'm getting good > speeds, > > but when it goes through the Rocket, and onto the AP, I'm seeing > lots of > > packet loss. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chuck > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM, RickG <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > Here is my interface stats: > > XM.v5.2# ifconfig > > ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST > MTU:1500 > > Metric:1 > > RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > frame:0 > > TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0 > carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 > > RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB) TX > bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB) > > > > br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 > > inet addr:10.10.100.29 Bcast:10.10.100.255 > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > > RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > frame:0 > > TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB) TX bytes:566985 > (553.6 KiB) > > > > eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > > RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > frame:0 > > TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 > > RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB) TX bytes:431157904 > (411.1 MiB) > > > > eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97 > > UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 > > RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > > RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > RX bytes:89 (89.0 B) TX bytes:89 (89.0 B) > > > > wifi0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:511 > > RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) > > Interrupt:48 Memory:b0000000-b0010000 > > > > XM.v5.2# > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far > as the > > other MT on the tower see. > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > > > General Manager > > > > PCS-WIN <http://www.pcswin.com/> > > > > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > <http://www.rcwifi.com/> > > > > *From:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>] *On Behalf Of *Justin > > Wilson > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM > > > > > > *To:* WISPA General List > > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M > > > > In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that > > made no difference. I figured it might have been an > issue > > with the 493G board. We used to see issues with > Tranzeo and > > 450Gs so I figured it might be similar. Putting the > switch > > in did not help. Cable run is only about 20 feet. It is > > being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24. > > Other devices on the tower are able to get good > speeds to > > the Mikortik. > > > > Some theories at the moment: > > > > 1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power > away > > from the ethernet chipset to cause issues. > > 2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher > than 12 > > at least) > > 3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet > port. > > 4.Mikrotik board has an issue. > > > > Justin > > -- > > Justin Wilson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <http://[email protected] <http://mtin.net>>> > > http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News > > http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter > > Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From: *Chuck Hogg <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <http://[email protected] <http://shelbybb.com>>> > > *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <http://[email protected] <http://wispa.org>>> > > *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400 > > *To: *<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <http://[email protected] > <http://snappydsl.net>>>, > > WISPA General List <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <http://[email protected] <http://wispa.org>>> > > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M > > > > I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of > > yesterday) > > > > It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as > well. > > > > The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any > > type of ping flood. > > > > I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola > works fine > > and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as > well. > > Same issue. > > > > When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works > fine. > > When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the > same results. > > > > No bandwidth shaping. Have tried multiple different > devices > > on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive > > Managed Dell Switch. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chuck > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <http://[email protected] <http://snappydsl.net>>> wrote: > > > > Is it possible to change and test to see if it the > Radios's > > or the > > MK493ah that is root cause of this issue. > > > > Also, do you get the same results when you run the > test from > > one side or > > the other ? > > Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ? > > > > do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug > > int one side > > to see if that makes a difference ? > > (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 & MK750g.. no > issues... > > > > Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware > to the > > 3x train on > > the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results.. > > > > Got to narrow down further... > > > > Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides > have a > > MK router ), > > showing similar behavior between the Rocket & Mk Router ? > > > > Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta > > 3... (get it > > from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change.. > if they > > don' then > > ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue.... > > > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > > > > On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > > > Set all to Auto Neg and no change > > > Here is SSH report > > > XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig > > > ath0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST > > MTU:1500 > > > Metric:1 > > > RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > frame:0 > > > TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > carrier:0 > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:200 > > > RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB) TX > > bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB) > > > > > > br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 > > > inet addr:10.10.2.179 Bcast:10.10.2.183 > > Mask:255.255.255.248 > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST > > MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > > RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > frame:0 > > > TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > carrier:0 > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > > RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:3939545 > > (3.7 MiB) > > > > > > br0:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85 > > > inet addr:169.254.146.133 Bcast:169.254.255.255 > > > Mask:255.255.0.0 > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST > > MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > > > > > eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85 > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST > > MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > > RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > frame:0 > > > TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > carrier:0 > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 > > > RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB) TX > > bytes:1136564610 (1.0 GiB) > > > > > > Steve Barnes > > > Manager > > > PCS-WIN > > > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <http://[email protected] <http://wispa.org>> > > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] > > > > On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:31 PM > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M > > > > > > > > What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ? > > > > and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1 > > > > > > > > ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are > > 1500/1524 > > > > > > > > Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the > > Mikrotik& PBM5 > > > > > > > > also, ssh into the PBM5& use /bin/ifconfig command to > > see if there > > > are any > > > > errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > > > > Snappy Internet& Telecom > > > > 7266 SW 48 Street > > > > Miami, Fl 33155 > > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > > > Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: > > [email protected] <http://[email protected]> > > > > > > > > On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > > > >> I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of > > PowerBridge 5M radios, 4 > > > >> mile link. I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect > > 130MB 99% Airmax. > > > >> UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb. Now the > > interesting > > > issue, > > > >> both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS. > > Running MT Bandwidth > > > >> test from MT to MT TCP speeds are horrible. 14 Mb Dn > > and 6 Mb Upload. > > > >> We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the > > climber was on > > > >> the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test > > from the > > > >> PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same > > Mikrotik that I > > > >> get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT > > to Port-2 MT, > > > >> Port-6 to UBNT Rocket) We had tried different ports to > > no avail and I > > > >> test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got > > 50 Mb x 50Mb. > > > >> Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I > > had a > > > >> NanoBridge. A test to that across the wireless side of > > the link > > > gave me > > > >> a 30 Mb x 35Mb. So it come down to a single > > PowerBridge radio that > > > >> either has a bad ethernet port or a bad POE/cable > > between the UBNT and > > > >> MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and > > > PowerBridge. All > > > >> ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate. This MT > > 493AH is > > > >> relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test > > there are no > > > >> ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT. > > > >> > > > >> What else can I check from the ground. Unit is 250 ft > > up and > > > requires a > > > >> climber I don’t have daily access to. > > > >> > > > >> Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt. 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