New laptops don't have java. Flash is one library and takes second to install.
Launch speeds are of no comparison, flash is way faster. Takes a lot of time to warm up the virtual engine. On Oct 2, 2010 5:32 PM, "Jeromie Reeves" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have to question: Why would a new laptop not use it? And how do you > figure flash is lighter? > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Jon was right - just loaded up 5.0rc1 and they added "webfig". Format is >> very much that of Winbox and looks very good at a glance! >> >> Webbox is still there and it is still bad. >> >> Java is way too slow and not very portable (in the sense a new laptop won't >> use it). Flash is easier and lighter. HTML works 99.99% of the time. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I asked them about a Java client a long time ago and they nixed it.. Said >>> there was a Windoze client and it could run under Wine. But I was looking at >>> other platforms. The biggest problem with Mikrotik is their tunnelvision and >>> unwillingness to look outside of the box IMHO >>> >>> Leon >>> >>> On 10/2/2010 3:04 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: >>> >>> Or Java would be nice. But really anything that is cross platform would be >>> good. Then I wouldn't have to run Parallels or Fusion all day. >>> Greg >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> It doesn't answer anything. You can't configure anything. It screws up >>> what you have set. Hate it. I would like to see an html copy of winbox, >>> but that's a dream. >>> >>> On Oct 2, 2010 12:33 PM, "Robert West" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Ah.. I always use Winbox. Tried Webbox a few times when I "had to" but >>> > wasn't comfortable with it at all. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:18 AM >>> > To: WISPA General List >>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The MT webbox causes cancer it is so terrible. >>> > >>> > On Oct 2, 2010 9:08 AM, "Greg Ihnen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> That script should be the MT default when one checks the "protect >>> >> router" >>> > check box in the web UI. >>> >> >>> >> Greg >>> >> >>> >> On Oct 2, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Robert West wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Checked the logs this morning and guess who was back at it.... Was >>> >>> trying >>> > to do a brute force attack from yet another IP but that script from >>> > Butch >>> > swatted him like a fly. Worked like a charm! >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to both you and Butch, he be gone. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >>> On >>> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:38 PM >>> >>> To: WISPA General List >>> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway >>> >>> >>> >>> Compliments of Butch Evans >>> >>> >>> >>> /ip firewal filt >>> >>> add action=accept chain=forward comment="drop ssh brute forcers" >>> > disabled=\ >>> >>> no dst-port=22 protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_blacklist >>> >>> add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=ssh_blacklist \ >>> >>> address-list-timeout=1w3d chain=forward comment="" >>> >>> connection-state=new \ >>> >>> disabled=no dst-port=22 protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_stage3 >>> >>> add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=ssh_stage3 \ >>> >>> address-list-timeout=1m chain=forward comment="" connection-state=new >>> >>> \ >>> >>> disabled=no dst-port=22 protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_stage2 >>> >>> add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=ssh_stage2 \ >>> >>> address-list-timeout=1m chain=forward comment="" connection-state=new >>> >>> \ >>> >>> disabled=no dst-port=22 protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_stage1 >>> >>> add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=ssh_stage1 \ >>> >>> address-list-timeout=1m chain=forward comment="" connection-state=new >>> >>> \ >>> >>> disabled=no dst-port=22 protocol=tcp src-address-list=!heavysshservers >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> >>> Suite 1337 >>> >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Robert West >>> >>> <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Then we'll just send the pigeons over to poop on them. >>> >>> >>> >>> Easy. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >>> On >>> > Behalf Of RickG >>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:29 PM >>> >>> To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List >>> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway >>> >>> >>> >>> I like it but what if the ip is being masqueraded? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Tom Sharples <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> I've often wondered, is it legal for the receipient of this sort of >>> > thing, to retailiate with e.g. ping or curl storms? >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom S. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Robert West >>> >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:57 PM >>> >>> Subject: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway >>> >>> >>> >>> Just had to deal with a brute force attack on a MT router acting as a >>> > gateway. >>> >>> >>> >>> Came from these two IP addresses.. >>> >>> >>> >>> 59.42.10.38 >>> >>> >>> >>> 61.155.5.247 >>> >>> >>> >>> Looked them up, they turn out to be pretty common for this sort of >>> >>> thing. >>> > Added a firewall rule to drop them and they are no longer filling my >>> > log. >>> >>> >>> >>> Some may want to do the same for these jokers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert West >>> >>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc. >>> >>> 740-335-7020 >>> >>> >>> >>> <image001.gif> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1120 / Virus Database: 422/3172 - Release Date: 10/02/10 >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1120 / Virus Database: 422/3172 - Release Date: 10/02/10 >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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