Thanks for the information...  but remember my whole post was about dealing 
with the power cable not that I should use Fiber - I already knew that part.... 
 any suggestions on that?

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102

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From: "Rick Harnish" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:08 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AM Tower Question



I second Justin's advice.  If you must use Shielded Ethernet,
you will need to ground it to the tower every 20-30 feet.  That means pealing
back the plastic sheath and wrapping a small cable ground kit around the
shielding, water proofing and then attaching the ground strap to the tower.  
Make
sure the tower grounding system is adequate and no ground loops exist between
your building and the tower.  After all the effort and expense in labor and
equipment, it would probably be cheaper to run fiber.  It will also prevent
flaky issues from arising in the future if the weather proofing fails.

The radio station will need to turn down or turn off the equipment
while this work is being done.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000 cell
866-317-2851 WISPA Office
Skype: rick.harnish.
[email protected]






From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Justin
Wilson
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:52 AM
To: [email protected]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AM Tower Question



   My advice is to run fiber
if you must use the tower.

    So the whole tower is not charged? Most AM towers are
the antenna themselves.  This means as you add equipment you will have to
re-proof the tower as you have changed the radiation pattern of the tower.

    I am hoping your climbers have RF monitors or the owner
has really turned down the power for you as you climb.

    Justin
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From: Scott Carullo <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>,
WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:55:40 -0500
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [WISPA] AM Tower Question

I ran a
shielded shireen ethernet cable up a tower today about 50-60 feet maybe, the
cable itself was maybe twice that length to run into a building.  While
the cable was being hoisted up I was holding the end and it got so hot I had to
let go.  There is an AM antenna running up the side of the tower and its
about 10KW from what I was told.

I am going to assume there is no way to successfully run ethernet up this
tower, I know others have tried and warned me it would not work but I had to
see for myself...  I believe it now :)

We do have power (standard outdoor SOOJ type cable 14/3) cable running to a box
150 feet or so up there.  Ethernet runs from the box are about 5-15 feet
max.  Mostly unshielded indoor cat5 (I inherited this and have not switched
out yet).  Any way the power works fine and the radios and cabling have
been there for years and is also fine.

My question - I was told the power didn't work until a wise old man put a
choke/filter of some sort on the power cable when it entered the box at 150ft.
 I want to run a new cable and put up a new box, but I'd like to not climb
the tower and figure out what wise old man used.  I'd rather know and have
my new box ready for the beating before raising it up there.  I usually use
power filters on all our tower boxes (noise filter/supression unit on incoming
power like Square
D Surgelogic type LC power filter / surge protection 5 amp 120v).  Is this
going to handle the AM problem or do I need something more specialized?

Thanks

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102

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