My thoughts too. Brad
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] new list LOL, funny how my history teacher was right about his saying, "history repeats itself". I remember being on the isp-wireless list and getting emailed about one sentence responses and emailed everyone I was done. So Mike started up the Part-15 lists. Then it went from there to WISPA. Then splintered to AFMUG and Butch's Mikrotik list. Now we may be back to WISPA and the new wug.cc , although I do believe in neutrality, but no hard core bashing. Be a little mature ( although it's hard to say what age this begins ) about posts and put some forethought in responses. Oh I almost forgot wisp-equipment, Judd's list. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: support <[email protected]> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:52 -0600 >I don't see the list as a replacement but 1 more good tool in the tool >box think its more to replace AFMUG we are all getting sick of chuck >getting angry > > > >On 1/24/2011 12:11 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> Um.... people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually not >> warranted. There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why do >> you feel that we can't bash WISPA on this list? If there are >> legitimate concerns with the organization, and one feels they are a >> threat to the industry, then voice them. >> >> Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything done. >> It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has >> constructive criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that >> will get something done. >> >> I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting and >> not a waste of time, however I will probably start various new >> threads on the WISPA list, as it has served my and many others needs quite well. >> I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it. >> Numerous products/services/organizations have been praised when >> necessary, and called out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the >> purpose of the WUG list. >> >> We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that it >> will be a fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the industry. >> Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the face >> of the industry, because it makes better material for the >> sensationalist media. >> >> I realize that as business owners, we have very strong opinions and >> value our independence and rights. However we must also keep in mind >> that we as an industry are under attack on a continuous basis. WISPA >> has provided a focal point for us to coalesce around as an industry. >> They have continuously shown a deep understanding of how to keep the >> industry growing. They have produced a number of products (3.65 regs, >> whitespaces, dfrs etc.) These end products take substantial amounts >> of time and effort to produce. They have seen how the sausage is >> made, and not been afraid to get their hands dirty. >> >> I hope to join WISPA in the near future and contribute my support. >> I've been slowly ramping up my WISP and preparing to roll out a broad beta. >> >> I should get back to that now, have a demo due by the end of the week.... >> >> On 01/24/2011 09:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> To be entirely neutral. We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for example. >>> We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA. Probably not >>> the best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we want. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Not sure of the reason for this Post here. Isn't the >>>> [email protected] a free non-vendor specific list? Is this a post to pull users from WISPA? >>>> >>>> Steve Barnes >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] new list >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing >>>> list has been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is >>>> 100% free, and is not tied to any product or service being sold. 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