The good news is.... Although there are negative forces against us, there are still folks in Congress and house/commerce committees that can understand our side, to preserve the structure of the INternet and the providers that truely understand how to operate it optimally. The easiest way to shut down or censor the Internet is via BGP and DNS. It was a big victory several months ago, when the ISP industry pulled togeather, and shut down the attempt of Security and Copyright agencies to hi-jack control of DNS via legislation.
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Weddell" <da...@omnicity.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>; <spie...@avolve.net> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet > (Somewhat of a soapbox) > > The whole "stimulus" plan was the first step to reward a "few" winners. > When you see the red tape attached to stimulus awards, it should make one > run far away. We applied because "consultants" convinced us that it would > be a way to fund our rural areas. We, Indiana WISPA, heard a great message > a few weeks ago at our statewide meeting from Dan Picker of Purewave on > how stimulus funds were the biggest disaster towards stimulating anything. > Those of us that wasted time applying for funds kept from ordering > equipment, making commitments to build out our network in the same manner > that got us where we were already and we all suffered for the delay. > Suppliers had the worst year and equipment manufacturers sat idles. Now we > see how a government can control the entire Internet business with one > switch. The sad thing is, we are down to a handful of "real" Internet > providers that we buy our services from in the US. How long will it be > before the Government will be able to shut us off l > ike they did in Egypt? > > > David Weddell > > (stepping off the soapbox and watching my back) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:01 AM > To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet > > Yeah, why do you think the Feds fund 1 large broadband winner per area? > Reducing the number of broadband providers way simplifies feds taking > control over them, if ever needed. Same thing with meet-me-points between > middle and last mile located in Schools and government buildings. Critical > infrastructure is now on Government property to ease Feds gaining access > to > it. > > If you ask me... The USA needs to continue to lead by example. Example of > a > Free Internet, Free from Government control. > The last thing the USA should do is try to immulate Egypt's mis-use to > censor it's people. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet > > > > They can't stop the Godz Rock'n'Roll Machines ! > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:18:53 -0600 > >>Ohbummer is trying to get an "internet off switch" for himself as we >>speak. >>I think that is as scary as the way hitler started. Gun control, then >>mind >>control. >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband >><li...@stlbroadband.com >>> wrote: >> >>> > and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for >>> their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world >>> >>> Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into . >>> >>> *******Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* >>> >>> *****www.ShowMeBroadband.com* >>> >>> *****www.StLouisBroadband.com* >>> >>> *****www.FarmingtonForum.com* <http://farmingtonforum.com/> >>> >>> 314-974-5600 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] >>> On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com >>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet >>> >>> They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go >>> >>> through Egypt.. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: Faisal Imtiaz >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM >>> >>> To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List >>> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet >>> >>> I am sorry ....but that is a cheap shot.... >>> >>> I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam >>> from >>> >>> here in the US though. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Faisal >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> wrote: >>> >>> > Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>> >>> > From: Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> >>> >>> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >>> >>> > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800 >>> >>> > >>> >>> >> Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> *************************************************************************************************** >>> >>> >> Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action >>> >>> >> unprecedented in >>> >>> >> Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered >>> service >>> >>> >> providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. >>> >>> >> Critical >>> >>> >> European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be >>> >> unaffected >>> >>> >> for now. >>> >>> >> But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, >>> >>> >> website, >>> >>> >> school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four >>> >>> >> Egyptian ISPs >>> >>> >> for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the >>> >>> >> world. Link >>> >>> >> Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their >>> >>> >> customers and >>> >>> >> partners are, for the moment, off the air. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually >>> >>> >> simultaneous >>> >>> >> withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's >>> >> global >>> >>> >> routing >>> >>> >> table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, >>> >> leaving >>> >>> >>> >> no >>> >>> >> valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange >>> >>> >> Internet >>> >>> >> traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's >>> Internet >>> >>> >> addresses are now unreachable, worldwide. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> ******************************************************************************************************************** >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> -- >>> >>> >> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >>> >>> >> Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" >>> >>> >> Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 >>> >>> >> www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> WISPA Wants You! 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