I'm pretty sure I'm FCC rule compliant, considering I use Trango Tlink-45s (DFS 
certified), just about everywhere that we use 5.4Ghz. 
I have a lot of 5.4G deployed within a 25 mile radius of DC.  I have chosen not 
to register my links in the TDWR database for a variety of legitimate 
competitive, strategic, and legal reasons, that have nothing to do with FCC 
Compliance.  Currently the DC area appears clean on the radar maps. However, 
should anyone else learn otherwise in the future, let me know, I have an open 
door, and will help if I can. 


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Patrick Shoemaker 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] IDEAS to help solve the 5 GHz TDWR problem


  I'm close to IAD, DCA, BWI, and ADW. With so many radars in such a small area 
I'd imagine some triangulation could be done. DC is not on the FAA's hotlist 
though...

  Next weather event I will take a look.

-- 
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com 
  On 2/9/2011 12:32 AM, Jack Unger wrote: 
    Here are some ideas to help solve the TDWR interference problems around the 
country and possibly save 110 MHz of spectrum (5570 to 5680 MHz). We may not 
need to physically go to the problem areas because the data is available 
online. Here's what we could do: 

    First, I'm attaching an NTIA report about TDWR interference. It contains a 
picture showing what the interference "strobe" lines look like (see page 7). 
Once you read this report, you will have a good understanding of the problem 
and how to look for interference strobes. 

    Second, the TDWR radar outputs can be accessed from 
<http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp> then select the TDWR radar that you 
want to monitor. The trick is learning how to configure your view of the radar 
to be able to see strobes that are present. It requires tweaking with the 
elevation angle and velocity settings during the presence of actual 
precipitation conditions being displayed on a radar. I've seen strobes myself 
after I've played with the radar settings for a while to see what settings make 
them the most visible. It requires some time for experimentation. 

    I'll ask the FCC for updated "problem airport" information. The last 
reported problem areas were New York, Chicago, Denver, Dallas and San Juan 
Puerto Rico. If we can get a volunteer team in each area to monitor their local 
TDWR during heavy weather, that team can get a general idea of the direction 
that the strobes are coming from. As the attached report indicates, one UNII 
transmitter can cause several, slightly different direction strobes so again, 
it's going to take some practice to figure this out but with practice and 
dedication from local teams, we should be able to track some of these offending 
transmitters down. 

    Have a look at the report and experiment with viewing your local radar. 
Once you figure out what radar settings show the strobes best, PLEASE tell the 
rest of us. 

    If we put our heads together to address this, we may be able to locate many 
of these interference sources and save the band without needing strict new FCC 
regulations. If you want an email list set up for the team in your area (for 
example, (xxx_area_TDWR_Team), let me know and I'll get the lists set up. 

    I think it's worth a try. Who's on board and which TDWR system are you 
near? 

    jack 
    818-227-4220 





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