We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost $2,600/month 
or $31,200/year. That is a large expense for email.


Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108

On 3/29/2011 11:55 AM, Shaun Hoggan wrote:
> This is a great dialog on the pros and cons of hosting vs. outsourcing
> email. While the answer is not going to be the same for everyone,
> outsourcing our mail to Google has improved our customer experience many
> fold and has further entrenched our customers to us as their ISP.
>
> IKANO determined several years ago that we could not compete with the
> Google Gmail. The adage goes, “if you cannot beat them join them.” IKANO
> ended up moving our mail to Gmail and it has been one of the single best
> decisions we have made as a service provider.
>
> You can find out more about how IKANO is enabling service providers to
> move to Gmail here:
>
> http://partneredition.ikano.com/
>
> Shaun Hoggan
>
> s...@ikano.com <mailto:s...@ikano.com>
>
> 801-415-8113
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Mark Nash
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:57 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform
>
> Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per
> account price you're getting? I haven't been able to track anyone down
> about it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mark
>
> On 3/29/2011 6:53 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> All I'm going to say about this is that Gmail made my email headaches go
> away. No more tracking down spam/antivirus issues, no more webmail
> issues, no more hardware issues with the servers (disks seemed to fail
> in an email server more often than a web server). No more people getting
> their password hacked and thousands of emails being sent out. No more
> IPs ending up in the SORBS/et. al databases. I tracked email maintenance
> time and materials for 6 months, and it was well worth the $.35 per
> email account we spent to let Google do it.
>
> It is so easy to tell someone to take their iPhone/Droid phone/et. al
> and select Google as their email provider and put in their login
> information.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net
> <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote:
>
> You can slice it any way you like...
>
> all I can tell you is that ... when you have evaluate honestly how much
> time is spent by yourself or someone vs how much you have to pay for the
> service...
>
> for example.
> Paying someone $75/month to keep linux boxes uptodate and secure is a
> very inexpensive proposition.
> Paying someone $0.25 per mailbox for high quality spam / virus filtering
> services is a very inexpensive proposition..
>
> paying $0.35 per mailbox which includes some ridiculous amount of
> storage and spam / anti virus is a heck of a deal...
>
> Unless.... you need somethings else that is not there...
> e.g. in our case, we use internal hosted machines that we have
> 'outsourced' security & updates on to a third party... and we pay a
> different third party for excellent Spam/Virus filtering...
>
> our problem was very simple... we provide hosting packages along with
> email.... even though what Google and Tucows offer is a great deal.. but
> we needed options which they don't offer.
>
> Maybe next go around we may separate mail from hosting control panel...
>
> Your Mileage May Vary.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
>
> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
>
>
>
>
> On 3/28/2011 8:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Exactly, out-sourcing just means you just pay for it indirectly, plus
> their profit.
>
> -----
>
> Mike Hammett
>
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
>
> On 3/28/2011 5:18 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> It all costs some way. You pay for administration, hardware, etc,
> whether you outsource or host it yourself. The time savings for me would
> be well worth $0.35 per user even in the thousands...may not be for others.
>
> Cameron
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com
> <mailto:lm7...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>  > Do you have the ability to do multiple domains with the Google
> platform? We
>  > also offer hosting services that need email.
>
> To do the switch to Gmail I believe you must change all client SMTP
> and POP3 server settings. Yuk. Also, depending how many email
> accounts you have $0.35 can really add up especially when in the
> thousands.
>
>
>  > I would second qmailtoaster if you have to have your own server.
> Personally,
>  > I would never run my own server again. At $0.35/mailbox with google
> or other
>  > hosted platforms, the time and effort it takes to keep things updated and
>  > blocking spam effectively are much more costly.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  > Cameron
>  >
>  > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Frank Crawford <mogoo...@gmx.com
> <mailto:mogoo...@gmx.com>> wrote:
>  >
>  > http://www.mailenable.com/standard_edition.asp
>  >
>  > There is a free (as in beer) edition and versions with the requirements
>  > that you requested.
>  >
>  > Frank
>  >
>  > On 3/28/2011 12:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:
>  >> Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email
> server
>  >> MailMax. Because of some support/productivity issues we are
> investigating
>  >> integrating a new box. The requirements are: webmail, web management of
>  >> individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can
> run on
>  >> Windows or Linux. We would also like a calendar and address book
> module in
>  >> webmail as well.
>  >>
>  >> Anyone have suggestions?
>
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