If the dielectric of coax cables causes them to have a velocity factor of .6, 
why would the jacket insulation be different?

Greg

On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:

> Except in this case, assuming the shield is intact and good quality, we are 
> dealing with undesired currents flowing on the surface of the cable shield 
> only. At 100 MHz and assuming an aluminum foil shield in the cat5, the shield 
>  metal is thicker than a few skin depths (about 8 um skin depth). So we 
> essentially have a solid conductor in open air, and if the insulation’s 
> relative permittivity is close enough to 1 to neglect (should be), the 
> velocity factor is close to 1.
>  
> -- 
> Patrick Shoemaker
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:32
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
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> In space (vacuum). Cables have a velocity factor.
>  
> On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> 
> And speed of light (c) = 300,000,000 m/s
>  
> -- 
> Patrick Shoemaker
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:10
> To: [email protected]; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
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> Wavelength (m) = speed of light (m/s) / frequency (Hz)
>  
> Avoid ¼ wavelength multiples.
>  
> -- 
> Patrick Shoemaker
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Carullo
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 14:54
> To: [email protected]; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
>  
> Get with someone who can tell you exactly how long to make the cables.  You 
> don't want them any whole fraction of the FM wavelength freq or it will 
> compound your problem.  Make them as de-tuned length as possible.
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> 
> I've had a coax in my hand not hooked to anything in the vacinity of a 
> high-power FM station and it was a resonant length and it got so hot I had to 
> drop it.
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> 
> Scott Carullo
> 
> Technical Operations
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> 855-FLSPEED x102
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> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:39 AM
> 
> To: [email protected]
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> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
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> 
> We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy,
> 
> double shielded cable
> 
> for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up
> 
> the tower but will need
> 
> 3-4 ft jumpers to the APs.
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> Any recommendations?
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