AES encryption is done in hardware.  Zero software time.

I've used wpa2aes since day 1 and I've never ever run into any issues with
it.

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:

>         They can sniff all they want. It's no different than some
> unscrupulous
> tech plugging into a switch upstream.  SSL banking is encrypted, google
> passwords are encrypted, etc. Anyone who is sending unencrypted traffic on
> the public Internet can be sniffed any number of places. I choose to not
> waste my CPU cycles on encypt/decrypt. We have other forms of
> authentication to keep users off the network.
>
>         Some things from the UBNT change log:
>
> - Improvement: WPA/WPA2-TKIP security stability improvements in noisy
> environments
>
> - Improvement: WPA/WPA2 EAP-TTLS improvements
> - Improvement: Connection stability improvement when using WPA/WPA2
> security
>
>
> Some of these are older but we definitely saw the bugs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:47 PM
> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
> Cc: Justin Wilson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?
>
> >I've never seen encryption issues when using UBNT gear to UBNT gear.
> >Regardless, you should run it because it limits the paths where someone
> >COULD sniff your customer's traffic.  Even if your upstream isn't
> >encrypted, you not being encrypted just gives someone more space to
> >sniff in.  If I was your customer I'd be bailing ship quickly.
> >
> >
> >Matt Hoppes
> >Director of Information Technology
> >Indigo Wireless
> >+1 (570) 723-7312
> >
> >On 9/14/12 2:07 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
> >> We have had almost zero problems with UBNT gear and lockups.  However,
> >> most people disagree with me on my setups.
> >>
> >> 1.I run zero encryption on the Aps.  Several reasons but the short is
> >> 1)UBNT has had issues with WEP/WPA/WPA2 code.  2) my upstream provider
> >> is not encrypted so why should I? See my blog for more rants on this.
> >>
> >> 2.We run Airmax only. No 802.11 clients.
> >>
> >> 3.We invest heavily in clean power to the Aps.  Conditioned batteries. 3
> >> Stages Chargers/power supplies. Fiber up the tower, etc.
> >>
> >> 4.We are religious about the Client firmware being the same as the AP
> >> firmware. The version is not as important as everything has to match.
> >>   If the ap is 5.3.5 then all the clients have to be 5.3.5, even if we
> >> have to downgrade.
> >>
> >> 5.We use the priority on the client side. If you have a weak client set
> >> them lower.
> >>
> >>
> >> By doing this we have grown from 0 clients to 1500 in just shy of 2
> >> years on an all UBNT wireless network. 40+ towers with probably 150+
> >> UBNT devices (aps, backhauls). I can't remember a lockup problem due to
> >> something not related to the above.
> >>
> >> Justin
> >>
> >> From: Doug Clark <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:29 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?
> >>
> >>     Matt,  Have to disagree with you here.  UBNT equipment does not just
> >>     run......
> >>     It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to
> >>     come back.
> >>     If you want equipment that " JUST RUNS "  and requires no
> >>     baby sitting that equipment has a Cambium logo on it.
> >>     You pay dearly for it and I have a significant amount in my network
> >>     but I am not deploying it because the cost is too high and
> >>     the bandwidth is too low.  UBNT equipment is very high
> >>     maintainance and super hard to diagnosis what the problem is when
> >>     you have one.
> >>     With all that being said I am still currently only deploying UBNT
> >>     and actually taking down Canopy FSK to replace it with UBNT 2X2
> >>     ~Doug
> >>     /-------Original Message-------/
> >>     /*From:*/ Matt Hoppes <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>     /*Date:*/ 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM
> >>     /*To:*/ WISPA General List <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>     /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?
> >>     Greg,
> >>     I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
> >>     from Ubiquiti.... unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
> >>     are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I
> >>haven't
> >>     had any problems with the final releases of software.
> >>     I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever
> >>wireless
> >>     routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
> >>     their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we
> >>never
> >>     hear from them again.
> >>     Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
> >>     rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.
> >>     No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many
> >>years
> >>     working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and
> >>now
> >>     Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul
> >>that's
> >>     been up for over a year with no reboots.... and no problems.
> >>     Matt Hoppes
> >>     Director of Information Technology
> >>     Indigo Wireless
> >>     +1 (570) 723-7312
> >>     On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
> >>     > Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
> >>     > bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their
> >>wireless gear?
> >>     >
> >>     > Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low
> >>cost/high pps
> >>     > throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature
> >>set)
> >>     > /and/ easy?
> >>     >
> >>     > It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.
> >>     >
> >>     > Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only
> >>features
> >>     > relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth
> >>accounting
> >>     > etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which
> >>has a lot
> >>     > of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
> >>     > protocols come to mind).
> >>     >
> >>     > Greg
> >>     >
> >>     > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
> >>     > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     >     Hi all
> >>     >
> >>     >     I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
> >>     >
> >>     >     Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard
> >>market and
> >>     >     I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the
> >>Ubiquiti router
> >>     >     instead of other well knows products
> >>     >
> >>     >       From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not
> >>only in the
> >>     >     number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and
> >>instabilities.
> >>     >
> >>     >     A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others
> >>working
> >>     >     since years in my network?
> >>     >
> >>     >     I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds
> >>for a new
> >>     >     brand.
> >>     >
> >>     >     Comments?
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >     --
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >     Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
> >>     >
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> >>     >
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> >>     >
> >>     >
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