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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARIN numbers
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:48:28 -0700
From: Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>

Unfortunately the days of having IP address space "In case" are long
gone...   ARIN will probably implement "use it or lose it" as the next
step before address exhaustion in IPV4...

Robert

On 10/03/2013 10:41 AM, heith petersen wrote:
> I might have read that wrong on their site, but I thought there were
> some exclusions from being multi-homed. More or less I want my own space
> incase I want to make a move down the road to different provider. Maybe
> it will raise a flag with our current provider that these guys are
> looking. I would actually have to buy from a competitor to be
> multihomed, however I am sure a lot of WISPS have to do this as well
>  
> heith
>  
> *From:* Jon Auer <mailto:j...@tapodi.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:24 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ARIN numbers
>  
> Pretty much the only hard and fast rule is you need to be multihomed. 
> If you are not multihomed you don't need ARIN and should be getting the
> IP space from your upstream provider.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, heith petersen <wi...@mncomm.com
> <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Well, I have several pops but from the same provider. I have a /20.
>     All are allocated to routers, likely using close to 70%. I would
>     need to dig in a little deeper. Some of our space we allocated to
>     others that we resell bandwidth to, kind of gets a little messy
>      
>     heith
>      
>     *From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:47 AM
>     *To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ARIN numbers
>      
>     ARIN has little to nothing to do with the US Government. Maybe only
>     historical, if it exists.
> 
>     You should multi-home anyway.
> 
>     How many IPs do you have?
> 
>     How many IPs are you using?
> 
> 
> 
>     -----
>     Mike Hammett
>     Intelligent Computing Solutions
>     http://www.ics-il.com
> 
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>     *From: *"heith petersen" <wi...@mncomm.com <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>>
>     *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>     *Sent: *Thursday, October 3, 2013 11:37:21 AM
>     *Subject: *[WISPA] ARIN numbers
> 
>     Kind of late in the game for this question, but has anyone been able
>     to successfully acquire IP space from ARIN? I have read that they
>     have 1 full/8 & 3/4 of another /8. We have always received our IPs
>     from our upstream provider, and where I live there are not a lot of
>     other choices for providers. Honestly, we may have been lulled into
>     thinking that we were to small to get our own space, or we needed to
>     be multi-homed.
>      
>     I have read on the website that we could fairly easily qualify, as
>     far as what is currently percentage wise utilized. I need to start
>     shifting all our networks to be fully routed and would be nice to
>     have our own space. Our provider is fairly big in the upper plains,
>     however things may change were we need to shift, or maybe get a
>     second provider.
>      
>     I assume that since ARIN is a non-profit organization that they
>     would not be affected by the current government shut down. I could
>     be wrong. I see they will be represented at WISPALooza this year. I
>     was hoping to get a little input on current success from others
>     before I put in a lot more research
>      
>     thanks in advance
>      
>     heith
> 
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