Me either, I was speaking based upon what Josh was saying and how Radio Mobile works.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristian Hoffmann" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:42:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ? Dunno. Like I said, I've never used towercoverage.com. I was just making some assumptions based on what Josh was saying. -Kristian On 04/09/2014 12:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Aren't they just computing them as a PtP each time a CPE is placed? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristian Hoffmann" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:31:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ? The limitation you're seeing of having to add another site to change the rx elevation is because calculating path loss to one point is relatively easy. Calculating it for the entire coverage area takes a fair amount of computing power, to the point that even on really fast hardware, it needs to be done ahead of time and cached. So, there's no "dynamically" changing the elevation of your plot. At best, they could pre-plot and cache a series of rx elevations and let you select from those choices. But if they let you have 4 choices (say 10, 15, 25, 35ft AGL), that would quadruple the amount of data they have to store for your (and potentially everyone's) coverage maps. Suffice it to say, the problem is non-trivial. I use Splat! instead of RadioMobile or towercoverage.com, but the algorithm and computational complexity is the same (they all use Longley Rice, last time I checked). The only thing I've seen that comes close to what you're asking was the guy doing near-real time viewshed magic, but I haven't heard or seen anything from him since WISPAPALOOZA 2012. -Kristian On 04/09/2014 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: <blockquote> What? Have you ever used Radio Mobile? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Signals don't change as you increment heights. You're asking for real time foliage mapping. Not going to find it. On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> I'm not talking about customers plotting where their address is. What I'm getting at is if I have a customer called in, I'd like to just punch in the location and then see if they'll work at ground level or how high we need to get off the ground and see the signal change as I increment height. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Clay Stewart < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can walk u through later today. Our websire customer lookup... http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223&Acct=2910 On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile. There's all the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example wanting to know what a customer's CPE would be without adding a site and putting them in the same list. I feel with technology as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to simply put a dot on a map and see what the signal would be from a tower while being able to adjust the elevation on the fly. I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service, too. There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for support, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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