It’s essentially acting as a squid proxy; they don’t need to know. As far as 
the end user is concerned, they’re talking to Apple servers. Your router routes 
traffic bound for Apple to your local server first, as far as I can tell.

Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless<http://www.velociter.net/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

I couldn't see how other people are supposed to know you have one of these 
caches running.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

________________________________
From: "Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
OSX Server is a $19.99 add-on to OSX Yosemite. You can virtualize OSX in ESXi 
(of course it won’t be supported by Apple unless it’s Apple hardware.)

Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless<http://www.velociter.net/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

Unless the caching server is free. Under what conditions does Apple put one of 
these in?

PC
Blaze Broadband
On October 28, 2014 1:41:41 PM EDT, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The issue 
 isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <t...@way.lc<mailto:t...@way.lc>> 
wrote:
For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's Caching 
Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates, iTunes content 
and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is transparent to the 
client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device asking for content and tells 
it to hit the local IP of your caching server. My day job is a Network 
Administrator at a technical college. This has prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF 
DOOM" when they release updates in regards to our open (public) wireless 
network.

Tim Way


On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco 
<paolo.difrance...@level7.it<mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:
Hello,

it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
(and the experince you want to give to the users)

In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.

Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.

For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)

Just my 2 cents



> Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
> years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
> and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
> & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>
> More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
> rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
> library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net<mailto:lwei...@excel.net> 
> <mailto:lwei...@excel.net<mailto:lwei...@excel.net>>)
> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
> (920) 452-0455<tel:%28920%29%20452-0455> – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> (888) 489-9995<tel:%28888%29%20489-9995> – Other areas, toll-free
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> 
> <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>>>
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> 
> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com> 
> <http://www.spitwspots.com>
>
> On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>
>     We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
>     couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>
>     Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
>     they live up to their name :) )
>
>     Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>
>     NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
>
>     Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
>     not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
>     owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
>     time ago we used this
>
>     Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
>     difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
>     in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
>     over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware
>     running on an open source operating system with custom code could
>     fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net<mailto:lwei...@excel.net> 
> <mailto:lwei...@excel.net<mailto:lwei...@excel.net>>)
>     Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>     (920) 452-0455<tel:%28920%29%20452-0455> – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>     (888) 489-9995<tel:%28888%29%20489-9995> – Other areas, toll-free
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From: *"Dave Barker" 
> <d...@broadlincwireless.com<mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com>>
>     <mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com<mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com>>
>     *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>     *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
>     *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
>     Back to the original question, is there anything else out there
>     that does what Procera can do?
>
>
>     On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens 
> <asteph...@ptera.com<mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>
>     <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com<mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>>> wrote:
>
>         I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through
>         Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using
>         their web based support system.
>
>         --
>
>         Arthur Stephens
>
>         Senior Networking Technician
>
>         Ptera Inc.
>
>         PO Box 135
>
>         24001 E Mission Suite 50
>
>         Liberty Lake, WA 99019
>
>         509-927-7837<tel:509-927-7837>
>
>         ptera.com<http://ptera.com> <http://ptera.com>
>
>         facebook.com/PteraInc<http://facebook.com/PteraInc> 
> <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> |
>         twitter.com/Ptera<http://twitter.com/Ptera> <http://twitter.com/Ptera>
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>         On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith 
> <wi...@mncomm.com<mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>
>         <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com<mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>>> wrote:
>
>             So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the
>             Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at
>             $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need
>             to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I
>             serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do
>             similar functions that may be more cost effective?
>
>             __
>
>             _I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left
>             them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from
>             earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern
>             if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support
>             would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back
>             from some actual users of their product or other similar
>             products._
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