FYI guys I got a voicemail at my office yesterday afternoon from powercode confirming they are aware of this issue.
I have not spoken to them yet and I am not sure if they are aware this is a time critical issue for some WISP who may have CAF funding becoming available for someone to overbuild them due to faulty 477 data. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: > I can't tell that anything like that is happening with the plans. > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> > wrote: > >> I also noticed strange numbers in the speed plans.... sometimes it would >> line up with a plan that we offered sometimes it would seem to pick a down >> from one plan and an upload that from a different plan. >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Adair Winter < >> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: >> >>> That's interesting. so some lines show nothing for and down/up speed. >>> others shows some plan that we have. Is powercode just picking the user >>> with the highest plan for the block and displaying that? hmm >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Deployment is your service offerings to the blocks. Basically, what >>>> blocks can you cover at what speeds and with what technology. Subscription >>>> counts actual subscribers in tracts. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett < >>>> wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well then. That sucks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:11:11 PM >>>>> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>>>> >>>>> Mike, I should have at least several hundred that actually have >>>>> subscribers that powercode should have included in the CSV. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Mike Hammett < >>>>> wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How many blocks are your subscribers in? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:06:48 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>>>>> >>>>>> Powercode does not have a real coverage map. They do generate the >>>>>> deployment .csv file, based upon the assumption of reporting any block in >>>>>> which you have a customer as being deployed. That approach will >>>>>> definitely >>>>>> generate incomplete results, but I'm seeing a way way worse problem. >>>>>> Powercode was giving us 22 blocks reported on the deployment CSV, when I >>>>>> did it by hand in GIS software, I have 841 blocks. Something seems to be >>>>>> very broken. I just finished the analysis right now, I will be emailing >>>>>> them shortly. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you guys are blindly dumping your Powercode deployment CSV into >>>>>> 477, you really should check the data yourself somehow. I have talked to >>>>>> one other powercode user who was seeing this problem. He actually had a >>>>>> mapping background and helped me do the analysis in MapInfo. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Fabien >>>>>> LakeNet LLC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett < >>>>>> wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does PowerCode have any way to calculate the deployment file? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From: *"Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net> >>>>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:52:10 PM >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *shrug* >>>>>>> When I do the export from powercode it dumps two .csv files. >>>>>>> DeploymentData.csv and SubscriptionData.csv. Both of which I just load >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> to the fcc 477 site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Mike Hammett < >>>>>>> wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does Powercode do deployment or only subscriber? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>>>>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:46:44 AM >>>>>>>> *Subject: *[WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Working on our 477, mapped the deployment data from powercode in >>>>>>>> our GIS software, we found it was grossly inaccurate, probably only >>>>>>>> has 10% >>>>>>>> of the blocks in the file compared to ones where we have customers. Has >>>>>>>> anyone else noticed this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We were previously not mapping the output and just blindly >>>>>>>> submitting it.... bad idea... we were grossly under reporting our >>>>>>>> coverage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adair Winter >>>>>>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner >>>>>>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 >>>>>>> C: 806.231.7180 >>>>>>> http://www.amarillowireless.net >>>>>>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Adair Winter >>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner >>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 >>> C: 806.231.7180 >>> http://www.amarillowireless.net >>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >
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