... however if you agree that you'll save money on your upstream and want to install a shared cost, meet in the middle, peering with Netflix (Google, Amazon, Acme startup, ...) you've created a "fast lane" and are now the enemy of ignorant net neutrality advocates.
On Dec 16, 2017 23:39, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > Correct. > > Netflix should not be entitled to free connections, but the ISP should see > the advantage in doing so and accept. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Vance Shipley" <[email protected]> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:02:00 PM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points > > "You" are an ISP of any size but think of the current context of a WISP. > "They" are some party who wants access to your network subscribers. To > begin with, when you get that call, it looks identical to a potential > customer wanting to order a dedicated access solution which you are happy > to sell them. Now they tell you "no, I don't want your upstream, I want to > reach your subscribers". > > You (ISP) are free to say "no, you pay the same as everyone else" or > alternatively you may think "this is Netflix (for example) asking, I will > free alot of bandwidth from my expensive upstream peering which I pay $XXX > for". You are (should be) free to make the business decision whether you > want to absorb the cost of this connection in order to save costs elsewhere. > > Otherwise you (ISP) ignore them (wannabe Netflix like startup). > > > On Dec 16, 2017 23:17, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Who is who here? We need to keep the conversation clear. I know I started >> with some ambiguity. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Vance Shipley" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:39:51 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points >> >> On Dec 16, 2017 22:53, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> They wanted paid peering and they got paid peering. NN didn't have any >> effect on that. The FCC specifically said they didn't understand how all >> that stuff works and didn't regulate >> >> >> Sure they did. What would you do if a "customer" (from your perspective) >> said to you that they were special and you shouldn't charge them anything? >> >> A) you would ignore them, or B) you would give them a price. Either way >> it's your choice, at least it should be anyway. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >
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