----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Developer support list for Wireshark" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] pcap-ng support


> On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 00:20 +0100, Ulf Lamping wrote:
>> Stephen Donnelly schrieb:
>> > On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 22:00 +0100, Ulf Lamping wrote:
>> >> Gianluca Varenni schrieb:
>
>> >>> http://www.winpcap.org/pipermail/ntar-workers/2006-March/000122.html
>
>> > I believe part of the idea behind allowing the timestamp precision to 
>> > be
>> > specified as a binary fraction (2^-X) is to allow the use of Endace ERF
>> > timestamps in pcapng/ntar natively.
>> >
>> Well, my complain in the first place is that the specification text is
>> pretty easy to misunderstand (just as I did), which is usually a very
>> bad thing for a specification.
>
> Certainly true.
>
>> > Timestamps in network traces are typically 64-bit, comprising a 32-bit
>> > 'seconds' part with a UNIX epoch, and a 32-bit 'subsecond' field
>> > counting milli/micro/nanoseconds withing the second. The most
>> > significant few bits of the subsecond are not used as the conuter
>> > saturates before using all the available bits.
>> >
>> I'm pretty much aware of that - I'm the author of
>> http://wiki.wireshark.org/Development/LibpcapFileFormat and I've
>> implemented the Wireshark switch from millisecond to nanosecond internal
>> resolution :-)
>
> Very much appreciated. In fact the current Wireshark code for reading
> ERF records converts the binary fractions to nanoseconds, a definite
> improvement.
>
>> > ERF timestamps are also 64-bits, and can be considered to be a 64-bit
>> > value in units of 2^-32 seconds, with a UNIX epoch. Alternatively it 
>> > can
>> > be considered a fixed point count of seconds from the UNIX epoch.
>> > Conveniently the 32 MSB are equivalent to the conventional 'seconds'
>> > count, while the 32 LSB can be considered a binary fraction of seconds.
>> > The lowest few LSB may not be used by specific hardware depending on 
>> > the
>> > available clock resolution.
>> >
>> Thanks for explaining it. But it just doesn't really help to explain it
>> here, it must be explained in the spec! Otherwise the next one that
>> graps the spec and implements stuff will be trapped.
>
> I would be happy for this to be put into the spec, if there is
> consensus.

I will try to clarify the specification tonite or tomorrow.
I promise :-)

GV


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