On Mar 23, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Martin Mathieson wrote:

> I'm now needing to analyse TCP conversations carried over LTE 
> MAC/RLC/PDCP/IP.  So one frame in a log or capture can hold many segments of 
> the same TCP conversation.

Presumably because it can hold multiple IP datagrams.

There are probably many parts of Wireshark that assume that a packet at the 
lowest visible layer will not contain more than one packet from a higher layer, 
so that the frame number can be used to uniquely identify packets at all layers.

I suspect LTE is not the only link layer that violates this assumption.

(In addition, assuming that a packet at the transport layer will not contain 
more than one packet from a higher layer is also not valid; TCP violates that 
assumption.)

So, in the general case, we'd need more than just the frame number; a pairing 
of {frame number} and {offset, relative to the beginning of the frame, of the 
first byte of the next layer of packet} might suffice, although it doubles the 
space required for the key.

> My change was to expand the key now to include 
> frame+sequence-number+ack-number (where the sequence-number and ack-number 
> are the raw, rather than relative, values), which works well for me.

That's another possibility, although it's specific to LTE.

> Is there a more appropriate key for looking up the segment?  I did think 
> about adding an index for the segment within the frame, but that would be 
> messy, and if you had to segments with the same seq+ack, I think the same 
> analysis would always apply.

"Index" meaning "if a given LTE MAC layer frame has more than one higher-layer 
packet in it, use the ordinal number of the packet"?
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