This is a bit off at a tangent but from
what I have heard, Macromedia will be announcing Coldfusion MX next week.
Coldfusion MX will be Java based and hence can be deployed on any Java based
platform. From what I understand Coldfusion MX will talk directly to Flash (or
the other way round which ever way you look at it) allowing real-time data to
be deployed in Flash applications (obviously without the need to refresh html
pages which is the case with most present html based application servers). To
go along with Coldfusion MX will be Dreamweaver UltraDev MX with drivers to
virtually every database engine (again only rumours that I have heard) for
rapid development. And of course Flash MX has been released already. This is
exciting news to some people as a lot of devices are now shipping with flash
players (such as cell phones, etc.) making data access easy and fast.
Anyone heard anything about this or been
a beta tester and want to comment?
Trevor
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandano, Peter
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Sent: 26 April 2002 02:19
To: Multiple recipients of list
witango-talk
Subject: RE: Flash integration
(was Re: Witango-Talk: Before the conferen cedinner...)
Jason,
Great news... I just switched to strings as well! :)
I can't tell you how happy I am that I found this group. It is so helpful to be
able to share ideas. I'll tell you, my Tango/Flash integration has really come
a long way thus far. Here are some of the important things I've found for those
who care.
My first attempt at the integration worked well, but was a little
unorthodox. I used an lesser known method of the flash player object: the setVariable()
method. After instantiating the flash object and playing my movie I called a
number of set Variables similar to this (animation was the ID of my Flash
player object):
window.document.animation.SetVariable("flashVariableNameHere","value
to pass, can also be JavaScript var"); // Bad way to do this.
Within the first frame of
the flash movie I declared flash variable flashVariableNameHere.
Voila, as soon as the setVariable function was called, my data (which tango
drew from a SQL database) was in my flash movie. I planned to use FSCommands to
do information exchange in the other direction. MAJOR problem: From what I have
read, setVariable(),
and FScommand()
are not supported in Opera for embedded Linux (the second of our two platforms,
I am developing for an internet appliance). Netscape 6 apparently lacks support
as well, due to the fact that they dropped liveConnect.
SOLUTION: go with the more common
approach. Changing my approach REALLY paid off. Previously, I had to reload my
page to get new data into Flash. Now by using loadVariables() within
Flash, I am able to get data from TAFs behind the scenes, in real time. I
now call loadVariables("dataLoader.taf", _root); whenever I need new
data. Works fantastic. I chose to use URLencoded strings as you did. >From what
I hear, Flash 5's XML parser was written in ActionScript, and is very slow.
Performance is critical for our application, so I went with strings. My output
pages in my TAFs are simply strings of URL encoded variables. I won't even get
into the exciting new possibilities that Flash MX brings to the table. I hope
that I will get some time to put together some demos that other people can
view. Does anyone have any examples of what they've done with Tango/Flash?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Pamental [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April
25, 2002 10:23 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Flash integration (was Re: Witango-Talk: Before the conference
dinner...)
Pete,
I�d be happy to talk to you; my contact info is at the bottom. I�m hoping to
put together a little suite of test apps (Scott put us all to shame with
everything he put together!) to show how it works, but haven't had a chance
yet.
There are two ways to get the data in and out; via XML or with strings of
name/value pairs of variables. We've used the latter and it's pretty
straightforward but not as fast as we'd like. (only a concern if youre
adding lots of data) - we want to try the xml method and see if it's
speedier. I suspect it may be...
Thanks also to lee for his kind words - we were really flattered with the
response we received.
Jason
On 4/24/02 10:40 PM, "Lee Sobo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have any specifics on what he's doing, but it is very cool.
Perhaps
> you can convince Sophie or Phil to provide you contact information.
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brandano, Peter <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday,
April 24, 2002 6:46 AM
>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Before the conference dinner...
>>
>> Thanks Lee,
>>
>> I am interested in the Tango/Flash demo you saw. I am currently
working on a
>> large project that will use Tango for database interaction and Flash
as a
>> front end. I have hit some interesting roadblocks along the way (most
have
>> more to do with Flash than Tango, and all problems were associated
with our
>> platform Opera for embedded Linux YUCK!). I have already changed
my design 4
>> times. I wonder if Jason (?) has any info on pitfalls he may have come
across
>> in his development.
>>
>> Pete
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lee Sobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday,
April 23, 2002 6:12 PM
>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Before the conference dinner...
>>>
>>> Gauthier:
>>>
>>> I can't speak for eveyone in the conference, but I'll speak for
myself. The
>>> presenters showed some incredible creativity and brilliance. Scott
>>> Cadillac's demo on using XML and Jason on intgegrating Flash were
>>> unbelievable. Also, one gentleman showed an implementation for the
>>> government of Ireland and
another for the city of Seoul, South Korea.
>>>
>>> Witango seems to be in very capable hands and there appears to be
quite a
>>> future for us. An early demo was just shown of being able to compile
Tango
>>> into Java. They are working on the same for .net. The main new
features of
>>> Witango seem to be the preemptive multi threading and a new
tag called
>>> @email. I'm sure there is more, but that is what stood out for me.
There
>>> seem to be quite a few innovations in the editor with customizable
snippets
>>> and a totally new view allowing us to see the inside of our
actions without
>>> having to open them all the time.
>>>
>>> I would say you can go develop and sell in peace.
>>>
>>> Long live Tango.... or I better say Witango or pay a fine.
>>>
>>> Lee Sobo
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: [Gauthier] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday,
April 23, 2002 2:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: Before the conference dinner...
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know what are the main new features of the new
version of
>>>> Witango!
>>>>
>>>> And does the Case studies and speakers interventions were
great:
>>>> Does Witango is compliant with with Large Scale Government
Applications ?
>>>> Does Witango works well for Intranet Applications with XML ?
>>>> Does strenght strategic alliance are good for buisiness ?
>>>> Does the Case study materials are available ?
>>>> Does the witango powerfull open a wide range of possibilities
?
>>>> Does the future of Witango v6 is ambitious ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks alot for some feedback ;)
>>>>
>>>> Gauthier
>>>>
>>>> PS: Does the dinner will be fine ?
>>>>
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