Hi, firstly a BIG thanks for our two main reporters and to others that have report some piece of the conference activity :)
SNIP from Scott ______________________________________________ > I apologize to the list - I had promised before the Conference to make an > effort to post information as readily as possible, but of course that didn't > happen. Let me tell you why. Hey, no apologises please! this conference was surely a big storm for all the people :) > I realize of course, Phil and Sophie will be releasing some of this > information 'officially' once they get home, but I thought an end > user/developer's point of view might be helpful. Yes, your point of view is seriously a good one to pick we are all waiting for their official information > Now imagine all these cousins together in one big room, not only talking > about Witango, but our lives, our families, the long roads of our careers, > our travels, our businesses, our futures and you can easily imagine how time > escaped us all and most of where negligent in getting information out to the > rest of our extended family, you. Please forgive us. No matter, that conference seems to have strengthened the strong kernel of the communauty > We covered an amazing amount of ground in 2 and half days and I for one only > slept about 9 hours during this time. that is hardly transcriptible for all of us wich were not to the conference, but we begin to discover how was the bigbang. > They thought they bought a product (Tango), but what they got was a > community. And they demonstrated to me, that they've taken this sincerely to > heart in every way. this is the main reason that keep the product alive during the new development, They also have herited a huge responsability, and they seems to managing well with all of this, we have to be thankfull for a such courage, the product totally deserve that we strenght this 'now growing' communauty > [...] > Andre demonstrated > that he is a dedicated sole that wants more than anything to "get it right". > Not only has Andre, and the rest of the Team been working on new features - > but they are literally rebuilding and fixing very large chunks of the Source > Code in an effort to make expansion easier and to optimize performance. This > is one of the reasons why it has taken longer than expected to release a > branded version of the Witango Server - but more on that later. That surely what that have scarried many peeps at the pervasive era (when I've discover the product) and this is surely the most important point for this kind of software. Features are for many of us less important than stability under various usage. That a great point, and the development team surely have the best skills to come with a amazing server side :) Apparently the new server side model will bring our taf to the light speed (maybe I'm a bit excessive ;) The new debugging features that come (line n0, metastack trace...) are incredibely cool! > New Variable Scope > """"""""""""""""""""""""" > [...] > I think this helps to position Witango more seriously in the world market of > other serious languages. Yes the 'local' term was surely a mess, it connotated a scope available for a particulare file or function, so we have to take the habit using <@ASSIGN Request$MyVar "SomeValue"> The <@DEFINE> will bring some new habits too, so Witango variable will have a fixed type definition, for more 'Well formed' applications ;) > Basic support for attachments will be in v5.0, with full support following > shortly after. Does the custom header of the mail action will brake the current limit of 32ko? is there any FACILITATOR (Ben, i don't want to appropriate this cool term ;) about part encoding and header definition of these part ? (a big thanks to Anthony M. Humphreys wich have massively helped me on the subject) > WISP > """"""" > [...] > The other obvious benefit, will be to allow independent developers to write > their own custom applications that can communicate directly with the Witango > Engine. This is surely the most rocking news about the product, some strongs developers will bring new kind of client/server solution with a such weapon My feeling is that Witango will break the frontier between the current 'Web development' market and this kind of solution! > Custom Tags > """""""""""""""" > His recommendations, if you would like to contribute, are to make sure you > submit your Custom Tag code with a unique name. Final naming of the Tag will > be done by the Witango Team, but prefix your submission with your name or > initials and use an underscore somewhere in it. Example: > <@SCADILLAC_BROWSERSNIFFER> > > This is because the final release of your Tag may become a compilation of > other submissions or features and the new Tag, example <@BROWSER>, then > doesn't step on top of your current functionality. This is because hard > coded Witango Metatags are always executed before any Custom Tags that > happen to have the same name. That fact will strenght the communauty, I think there is actually not enough ressource available from the communauty to demonstrate that Witango is a wonderfull product and that is OUR responsability (I sometimes feel bad because I still didn't have put a big work making an online developper corner that will, but the idea come slowly...) Ben's and Scott's work are exemples for all of us (not to mention many others, please don't kill me ;) > So, this is my quick wrap-up of some of the v5.0 Server. > > Part 2 will be more on the v5.0 Server and the Editor (including sharable, > searchable Code Snippets, Metatag Attribute helper and integrated Help > files) > > Part 3 is about writing and compiling Witango v6.0 Code for Java J2EE and > .NET. As well as my thoughts on Marketing Witango to the world. All the audience wait for the next issues :) > And also Thank you to Everyone (present at the Conference and not able to > attend) that made me feel personally, that all my efforts to support this > community have been completely worth-while. I will continue to > strive to honor your praise and thoughtfulness. And we will support the product widely as possible too! > Cheers for now, and I hope this makes up for my tardiness. No matter! we are spiteful people on this list you know? your execution is planned for the next week ;) LOL ______________________________________________ SNIP from Ben ______________________________________________ > here are some more of the them ;-) You take a pleasure to unveil only some of these ;))) > -Phil and Sophie have clearly taken what was thought to be a sinking ship, > patched the hull, ran the bilge pumps, re-painted it, put a new engine in > it. the new ship is being readied for sea trials and the new crew (which > they put together in record time) is finalizing her for recommissioning. > and this is just version 5, in the preview of the following release (name > and version to be announced) they are going to add wings and rockets and > make it fly ;-) Hope Witango is not a battleship, we are pacificate people, we don't need any rocket, but maybe a fractalo-quantic reactor will be usefull ;) > -At the conference there were a couple of gentlemen from Korea that were > showing slides with the audience watching as any attendee with about 3 hours > of sleep on the second day would, and then some slides came up that made all > of us sit up and do a double take. They had graphs showing that they had > created the same business logic in Witango,PHP,ASP & JSP and put it under > extreme stress and it had the current T2k knocking the socks off of PHP,ASP > & JSP. This is great for marketing. Yes, that is a kind of greatest news, v5 will surely amaze us and other's :))) Korean are really great people, I hope they will release these data for all of us (OT Note: Does the Korean guy who have write me is reading??? please send me another adress without special chars, so I can respond you...) > -There is a gentleman from Ireland that took his government by storm and now > his government has been Witango'd. Does he plan to release some information to us about that? > -There was a team from Germany with Witango,Java,Javascript & magic turned > out a content management application, which taking a quote from Dune "The > likes god hasn't seen". Was it with a white haired guy? I hope they will bring some news too when he come back in Germany > -Scott Cadillac's presentation of apply XML and XML RPC and Windows hooks, > and, and... we all had to pick up our jaws and put them back in our mouth. > go to http://xml-extra.net and be quick about it. Yes Scott deserve our biggest respect, but he has cheated for xml-extra.net : he used his incredible Content management system to build this site ;) I hope he will release some info about this architecture unless it's totaly secret... > -There was another team which showed how they had taken Flash with Witango > and had us sailing (pun intended) great reports around the conference. Like I love to said and repeat, I hope some of these presentation materials will be released soon, I currently didn't have any experience with flash but this will rock with dynamic implementation > -Sophie gave us an in depth and very personal explanation of process and > events resulting in them obtaining the Product from Pervasive (oops that'll > be a Quarter). > > -Phil and Andre wow'd us with the new features... > > and more... We are all waiting for theses 'officials' details and explanation when they come back in Australia :) > Remember, all of these projects where based on a supposedly dead product. Yes the future is brightest as ever! > the next conference will be one NOT to miss... > Many Thanks to Phil and Sophie for taking the helm I will be here for the next conference! Witango will be a known product, and users will be many more ______________________________________________ Tango is dead, long live to Witango! (and please not WiTango or wiTango or something else !!!) It's finally releasing most of the stress about the product future, and I hope the product will democratise in the widest developer communauty as possible, and it's our common task Anyone for a Vapourware session report? Thanks alot alot alot! with best regards Gauthier PS: scuse me for my repetitions and cheesy sentence; english is obviously not my primary language... ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
