Hi Web Dude,

If you had been there you would have blown your cover of anonymity ;-)

Phil was asking who you are...

Maybe, if you come to the next conference, we could have "will the real
Web Dude please stand up" skit during the diner :-)


Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized WiTango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WiTangoGoodies.htm 
Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws


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Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: My Conference Recap - Part 3

<@heartfelt>
Sure wish I could of been there.
</@heartfelt>
 From another colleague and friend.

>Hello Everyone,
>
>Here is my third and final installment of my Recap - and remember
>I'm just some guy from the list who attended the Conference and the
>following words do not imply any official product release information.
>
>Java J2EE, .NET and Witango
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>Looks kinda natural, when you see all three together on the same line,
eh?
>
>There were many eye opening events at the first ever Witango Developer
>Conference, with many of them having special personal meaning to me -
such
>as meeting and making great friends and being so well received by my
peers.
>Thank you again.
>
>Of course, Phil delivered some of the richest content at the
Conference. The
>work on the new v5.0 Server and Editor is extraordinary and the sense
of
>speed, stability and ability of these products runs very deep.
>
>Out of all the topics, new features presented, bug fixes, platform
issues
>and new suggestions discussed - hands-down the most blow away
revelation was
>Phil transforming a complete, functional TAF file into a J2EE compliant
Java
>code file.
>
>I was speech-less (but only for a second) - and I don't even like Java
:-)
>
>The implications are enormous. This new work is for v6.0, and to date
work
>has only been done for the Java conversion - but what Phil did was
>demonstrate that the end goal is obtainable. In very general terms, the
goal
>is to allow your Witango coding skills to take you into the Java and
.NET
>arena and compete!
>
>Credit goes to a group of talented University Researchers in Australia,
that
>Phil has enlisted, which call themselves the 'Compiler Optimization
Group' -
>and shame on me because I can't recall at the moment the name of the
>University precisely (but maybe that's not for public consumption right
now
>anyway?).
>
>The group has taken the XML format of a TAF, which contains all your
code
>and logic and transformed it into the equivalent code and logic of
another
>language. This is a topic that has been hotly discussed on the list in
the
>past - theoretically we knew it was possible, but was it achievable?
Phil
>showed us it is!
>
>Many technical aspects of this new capability were discussed, but keep
in
>mind this is a work in progress, but Phil stated that their agenda
includes
>transforming TCFs into JavaBeans and likely supporting C# with .NET.
>Likewise, your transformations will include a set of special library
files
>to support Witango functionality in these other languages and that this
>particular 'feature' will likely be released as a separate add-on
product to
>the Studio. Once deployed - your transformed Witango code will be
>independent from the Witango Server.
>
>So, what does that mean to you?
>
>I can't speak for you, so I'm going to be selfish and speak for myself
>(<tongue-in-cheek>like I never do that, eh.</tongue-in-cheek>).
>
>I love coding in Witango, but I work for a Company with it's roots in
the
>Accounting Industry - and the Accounting Industry is mainly Windows
based.
>Couple this with the fact we re-sell and support, among other products,
MS
>Great Plains which has already started moving to .NET. In the future,
you'll
>likely see nearly every serious Windows based Accounting solution
migrate to
>.NET.
>
>I have a great job, and a great boss, but unless I can get on the .NET
>band-wagon eventually - I'm going to lose out. So, I'm being dragged
>(seemingly kicking-and-screaming) into .NET. Not that I don't like the
>concept of .NET where in fact I admire the architecture that it's
founded on
>very much - but it's a huge leap to start writing .NET from scratch.
The
>most painful part of writing .NET was that I was going to have to leave
>Witango behind - but anymore.
>
>For me, Witango's new code transformation ability is profound. I've
spent
>years building a huge code base of files and work in Witango for our
Company
>and the prospect of throwing it away sent chills down my spine - until
last
>week. Keep in mind, Phil promised us he is still going to support and
grow
>the Witango Server platform - but now he has given me more choices.
>
>The advantages I now gain in speed of development (RAD) and deployment
in
>these other languages will be enormous, because of Witango.
>
>When Witango v6.0 hits the market - there will be few boundaries in
it's
>way, if any, and the advantages will be all ours.
>
>"Would you like your code written in Java, .NET or Witango?"
>
>
>Witango Marketing
>"""""""""""""""""""""""
>At the risk of alienating myself from the list, here's my opinion:
>
>I'm a developer, and normally I purposely avoid anything to do with
Sales or
>Marketing. But I do know one thing, the success and standing of Witango
can
>NOT rest solely on the shoulders of Phil and Sophie and With
Enterprise.
>
>At the Conference, Phil and Sophie eluded to some very powerful
partnerships
>and positioning they are working towards, but no names were forthcoming
-
>and rightly so. To achieve integrity, you need trust and Phil and
Sophie
>don't want to give us false hopes, so we need some patience.
>
>In the meantime, I've had to ask myself "why have I hung out on this
list
>for so long?".
>
>-- Was it to get help for the work I do in Witango - even though it WAS
a
>dying product? Yes.
>-- Was it to get help in other areas of my work? Yes.
>
>To get anything in life, you have to give too.
>
>Now I could rattle off a great big list of suggestions for you right
now, in
>how you can help promote Witango - but I can't make you do them, so
I'll
>leave it up to you to figure out if and when and how to help. It
doesn't
>matter how you do it, as long as you do it willingly and creatively.
>
>I started http://xml-extra.net some time ago, and it's still a work in
>progress, but this is not the only thing I'm working towards to help
support
>and promote Witango (and myself in the process). When these other
things
>come on-line, I'll let you know.
>
>Phil and Sophie are not asking you to do anything - I am.
>
>Sincerely, your colleague and friend,
>
>Scott Cadillac
>http://xml-extra.net
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>
>
>
>
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