Gauthier, your perspective is invaluable. What would we have on this List if it wasn't for our collective personal perspectives? Software? Well, software doesn't turn on the computers - people do. And it's the people behind the software that give it meaning.
At the Conference, I saw Phil, Sophie and Andre acknowledge this. They want to hear from us - singularly or collectively. You suggestion post is right on the money Gauthier - and my contribution to your post is just to suggest that we help the Witango Team out a little, and submit suggestion and/or bug information in a organized fashion to make the Witango Team's job a little easier. They are people like us after all, and are working under pressure, against deadlines and other people's code. At the Conference I was honored by being awarded "Bug Finder of the Year", because when the Witango Editor 4.5 Beta came out and I found my first bug on the very first launch of the Editor - I went into Technical Writer Mode (one of my former careers, prior to programming) and I detailed what I found. Steps, Screen-shots, my environment details and my observations. On the second or third bug I discovered (a very critical one for me, by the way), I discovered something very valuable - the Witango Team was listening. Phil put together a special build just for me and fired it off to me so I could keep working my project with the 4.5 Beta. I haven't reopened the T4K Editor since the Betas came out by the way. :-) The point to my rambling? Phil and the Witango Team may not answer postings or email right away - but they are listening and doing the best they can to get work done for us. And they are doing their work largely based on our input, perspectives, indulgences and ideas - ideas submitted singularly and collectively. Singularly, we are individuals with a voice and ideas. Collectively we have experienced true brain-storming, and collectively we make a culture called Witango. I am honored to be a member of this List and have all of you tolerate my ramblings, and to have an opportunity to listen to people like Gauthier express their thoughts and ideas too. Now everybody "GROUP HUG" - you are all wonderful people :-) Thank you.... Scott Cadillac http://xml-extra.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "[Gauthier]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [Suggestions] Witango environment evolutions? [1/1] > Hi, > > Now I understand that the better solution is to post directly my > suggestion/bug to WithEnterprise, > but my concern about suggestions was to not spam them with a huge list if > the communauty does not approve the usefull/rationnality of my suggestion. > So i'm resigned to prepare complete report of features (anyway that the only > thing that matter when the Dev Team have to take decisions, and all details > count for the best implementation) because it's surely the best way to see > these features implemented :) > > I'm sorry about my "Help me to organanize a 'bug/feature' management system > with an high end XML structure because I lack of these needed knwoledges" > but the feeling to become overwhelmed with all the idea that sudently come > within a fraction of time was to hard to keep me silent ;) > Since such management tools are not available for me at the moment (didn't > have any XML analysis skill for the moment and don't know the wide variety > of parser library allowing manipulate such datas) I will be happy if someone > can recommend me a good book in english (or french but this is sadly hard to > find good translation or writers) that will teach me these basic skills (XML > schema analysis/definition and the standard implementations of all the > parser library), so I can stop to bug the list for this concern ;) > > I'm currently really feel/discover how XML, OOP, [any]Data from/to > [any]Data and finnaly WITANGO will achieve a kind of 'AWESOME > INTEROPERABILITY' in the wide possibility of client/server development. > and that barely the first time I'm in a such brainstorm process (surely due > to my young age, but I think many of you have pass such experience and have > learned to restrain their feedback need...) so please scuse me for any > inconvinience.... > > Scott: I've readed and rereaded your [NICE|add any superlative here] > conference report as soon as each episode was available, but from my current > point it is strictely impossible to be satisfied about Witango content, and > all the new features that was showed/talked about at the conference so scuse > me if you my post seems to asking more ;) > > I'm also sorry if any of my currently posted suggestion seems really > 'gadget' to anyone, theses suggestion mainly raise while using the editor, > and I'm also very regarding about the stability/performance of the whole > tool, I'm not really informed on the parts of the current features that > needed to have a complete reimplementation on the editor side. > I'm impatient to discover what the new version is close to achieve. And I'm > sure that the new version will allow WithEnterprise to determine a > incredible future for upcomming versions > > anyway I will try to keep my balance before sending my suggestions... > > thanks for your friendly attention! > > PS: > > (1) after all this I'm feeling like an unconscient if I really considerate > how the dev team have worked from the buyed source, and not even considerate > that was a multi platform developement... But I've some feelings about the > fact that if you have the best 'interoperable' implementation in your source > project, adding features can be really fast/problem safe for a experienced > developer that know how to use his tools and own library in their wide > possibility... > > (2) a fact that will bring some indulgence about my "case" is that I didn't > have any feedback from the first list that I've sent on the list while the > Vapourware session ;) > > (3) it is definitelly hard to objectively embed my current mind state in a > text post. but I currently didn't have time to increase my writing abilities > ;) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: [Suggestions] Witango environment evolutions? > [1/????] > > > Hi Gauthier, > > I think if you were at the Conference you would have won an award for "the > most feature suggestions" :-) > > Obviously you have put a lot of work into this - so make sure it isn't lost > and formally submit these in an email to With Enterprise. Try either > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or even [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I can't speak for With, but I > can assume it's easier to keep track of this information in a formal > document than being mixed in with discussion threads on the List?? > > It's also unfortunate you didn't attend the Conference because some of your > suggestions are already in the works - or were brought up for discussion. > You can read my personal Conference Recap if you like, for some information > on the new features (disclaimer: none of my info is official or complete in > anyway): > http://xml-extra.net/webpage.xmlx?node=55 > > Although many of us see issues and features related to Server Performance > and Stability as a priority - which were addressed in detail at the > Conference, I was also very impressed at the Conference with the attention > to detail and effort Phil and his Team have put into Editor features. > > The new Witango Server is going to be AWESOME! > > Thank you Gauthier. Cheers... > > Scott Cadillac > http://xml-extra.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > VP, Research and Development > Plus International Corp. > 604-460-1843 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.plusinternational.com > > Vancouver, BC, Canada > > Does your company have an Enterprise Information Portal? 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