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witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 00:02:00 +1100 V01 #880
Today's topics:
'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping'
'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping'
'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up'
'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up'
'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up'
'Please Clarify'
'Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'OT - Happy Anniversary to Me'
'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify'
'RE: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'Re: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me'
'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic'
'RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify'
'<@INCLUDE> problem'
'RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem'
'RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem'
'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem'
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:25:54 -0500
From: Web Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
Poing!
>Pong!
>
>I was wondering if there was a problem too...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
>
>My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I didn't
>get bounced from the list.
>
>Thanks
>
>Steve Fogelson
>Internet Commerce Solutions
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:37:12 -0800
From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
Who server is it now :-)
Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
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Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
Poing!
>Pong!
>
>I was wondering if there was a problem too...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
>
>My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
didn't
>get bounced from the list.
>
>Thanks
>
>Steve Fogelson
>Internet Commerce Solutions
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:02:29 -0600
From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up
One more that I forgot to add to that last mail
I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user.
@@local$nslookup
But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the scope
would the command work like :
@@nslookup
??
thanks in advance
Steve
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:50:22 -0600
From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that
returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. =20
The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping
rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign
different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
start on the web trying to find that information.
Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank
you!
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
Who server is it now :-)
Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=20
Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
Poing!
>Pong!
>
>I was wondering if there was a problem too...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
>
>My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
didn't
>get bounced from the list.
>
>Thanks
>
>Steve Fogelson
>Internet Commerce Solutions
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:23:38 -0800
From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up
thats because without using a scope i believe it defaults to user scope.
local scope is just like it implies...local and temporary. user scope
sticks with the user until you change or purge it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up
One more that I forgot to add to that last mail
I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user.
@@local$nslookup
But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the scope
would the command work like :
@@nslookup
??
thanks in advance
Steve
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:25:29 -0500
From: "Tom Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
you might find something useful and dslreports.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Campbell, Steve V.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:50 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
>
>
> Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
>
>
> I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that
> returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.
>
> The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
> but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
>
> I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping
> rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign
> different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
> idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
> start on the web trying to find that information.
>
> Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank
> you!
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
> Who server is it now :-)
>
> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
> Poing!
>
> >Pong!
> >
> >I was wondering if there was a problem too...
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
> >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
> >
> >
> >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
> didn't
> >get bounced from the list.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Steve Fogelson
> >Internet Commerce Solutions
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> _
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:30:51 -0800
From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
well if you think about it logicly...what do you consider good response time
for a server? If your at a web page and it opens up in half a second (500
ms) thats pretty good isnt it? 2 seconds is kinda iffy and 5 seconds and
above id say is kinda slow. ::shrug:: :P
another thing to consider with network speed besides ping is avaliable
bandwidth. Im not sure how youd use this in your calculations or if you
even can very easily but if im a server with 1 megabyte per second with 3
users at 330k apeice (leaving aprox 10k bandwidth left) but have quad xeon
processors...the ping reply is going to be fast since a ping is small and
the processor isnt bogged down, but if someone tried to download a larger
file from me, it would take a long time since there is only 10k/second
bandwidth left.
Make sense?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that
returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.
The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping
rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign
different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
start on the web trying to find that information.
Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank
you!
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
Who server is it now :-)
Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
Poing!
>Pong!
>
>I was wondering if there was a problem too...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
>
>My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
didn't
>get bounced from the list.
>
>Thanks
>
>Steve Fogelson
>Internet Commerce Solutions
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:32:27 -0800
From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up
Just a clarification, if you do not specify scope it defaults to the
"DEFAULTSCOPE=" that is defined in the T4SERVER.INI and new WITANGO.INI.
Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atrix Wolfe
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:24 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up
thats because without using a scope i believe it defaults to user scope.
local scope is just like it implies...local and temporary. user scope
sticks with the user until you change or purge it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up
One more that I forgot to add to that last mail
I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user.
@@local$nslookup
But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the scope
would the command work like :
@@nslookup
??
thanks in advance
Steve
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:40:27 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please Clarify
Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, we've now got
readers who are using at least 3 different versions of Witango/Tango (3.x,
2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help everyone if when you post to the
list, you could provide some general information when asking a question. I
was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the product is
Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are using Witango 5.0
or greater.
Please include version, platform, database, method of connection (ODBC,
iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be relevant to your
question.
Thanks,
Steve Smith
Oakbridge Information Solutions
Office: (519) 624-4388
GTA: (416) 606-3885
Fax: (519) 624-3353
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:50:52 -0500
From: Robert Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
It's something like this, in the internet:
1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network)
11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc.
51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc.
101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems
301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion
1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure
You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet
drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to
be hundreds of ms more than it should be.
Robert Shubert
Tronics
"Campbell, Steve V." wrote:
>
> Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
>
> I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that
> returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.
>
> The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
> but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
>
> I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping
> rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign
> different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
> idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
> start on the web trying to find that information.
>
> Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank
> you!
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
> Who server is it now :-)
>
> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
> Poing!
>
> >Pong!
> >
> >I was wondering if there was a problem too...
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
> >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
> >
> >
> >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
> didn't
> >get bounced from the list.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Steve Fogelson
> >Internet Commerce Solutions
> >_______________________________________________________________________
> _
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:51:22 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me
I'm not sure why I remember this kind of useless trivia, but if my memory
serves me correctly, I joined EveryWare on November 25th 1995. Yesterday
marked 7 years since I first used Tango and became a member of the original
Tango-Talk list and I've enjoyed every minute.
Thank you to all of you who have made the last 7 years so enjoyable and I
look forward to spending many more years here.
Steve Smith
Oakbridge Information Solutions
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GTA: (416) 606-3885
Fax: (519) 624-3353
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:59:13 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
I'm not sure what your ultimate goal is but wouldn't it be useful to store
this information over time and compare current results to an average?
Just a thought,
Steve Smith
Oakbridge Information Solutions
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Shubert
> Sent: November 26, 2002 1:51 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
>
>
> It's something like this, in the internet:
>
> 1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network)
> 11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc.
> 51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc.
> 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems
> 301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion
> 1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure
>
> You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet
> drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to
> be hundreds of ms more than it should be.
>
> Robert Shubert
> Tronics
>
> "Campbell, Steve V." wrote:
> >
> > Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
> >
> > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that
> > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.
> >
> > The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
> > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
> >
> > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping
> > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign
> > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
> > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
> > start on the web trying to find that information.
> >
> > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank
> > you!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
> >
> > Who server is it now :-)
> >
> > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
> > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
> >
> > Poing!
> >
> > >Pong!
> > >
> > >I was wondering if there was a problem too...
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
> > >
> > >
> > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
> > didn't
> > >get bounced from the list.
> > >
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:04:28 -0500
From: Web Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
Since I have several T1's, with 30+ sites, ping rates have always
been paramount in testing the connection. Unfortunately, ping rates
will fluctuate widely according to connections, time of day, other
traffic, etc. Normally, I can get pings of 10 ms or less to sites
like google.com, alexa.com, netsol.com sending 56 byte packages..
Sometimes the rates will go down to 4 to 5 ms. Of cource this is T1
rates and my bandwidth for each pipe is rated at 1.5 mgs per sec,
point to point. As soon as you get into ISDN and DSL, the rates
change. Also, local trafiic on your network and any subnets you are
on with your provider also can be a factor.
On really bad or heavy days, I have seen these rates go up to 50 ms.
Of course when pinging, let's say, Brazil, rates can be 500 ms to in
the thousands with many packet losses.
Hope this helps...
>Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
>
>
>I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that
>returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.
>
>The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
>but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
>
>I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping
>rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign
>different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
>idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
>start on the web trying to find that information.
>
>Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank
>you!
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
>Who server is it now :-)
>
>Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
>Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
>Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>
>Poing!
>
>>Pong!
>>
>>I was wondering if there was a problem too...
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
>>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>>Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
>>
>>
>>My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
>didn't
>>get bounced from the list.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Steve Fogelson
>>Internet Commerce Solutions
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:52:50 -0600
From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify
Steve
Is this the new rule now?
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify
Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, we've now got
readers who are using at least 3 different versions of Witango/Tango
(3.x,
2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help everyone if when you post to
the
list, you could provide some general information when asking a question.
I
was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the product
is
Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are using Witango
5.0
or greater.
Please include version, platform, database, method of connection (ODBC,
iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be relevant to your
question.
Thanks,
Steve Smith
Oakbridge Information Solutions
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:10:58 -0600
From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
THANK YOU!
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Shubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:51 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
It's something like this, in the internet:
1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network)
11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc.
51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc.
101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems
301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion
1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure
You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet
drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to
be hundreds of ms more than it should be.
Robert Shubert
Tronics
"Campbell, Steve V." wrote:
>=20
> Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
>=20
> I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals
that
> returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.
>=20
> The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
> but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
>=20
> I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out
ping
> rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to
assign
> different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
> idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
> start on the web trying to find that information.
>=20
> Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank
> you!
>=20
> Steve
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>=20
> Who server is it now :-)
>=20
> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>=20
> Poing!
>=20
> >Pong!
> >
> >I was wondering if there was a problem too...
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
> >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
> >
> >
> >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
> didn't
> >get bounced from the list.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Steve Fogelson
> >Internet Commerce Solutions
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:25:51 -0500
From: "THOMAS PETERS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:29:50 -0700
From: Troy Sosamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic
Something else to think about is what you are pinging.
Are you pinging all the way across the internet to someone else's server, or
are you pinging your gateway router.
You might want to think about using tracert or neo trace where you can see
the timing of each hop along the way. Once you get past your firewall,
router, and your ISPs gateway, you don't have any control over the timing.
I have an automated IP monitor that continually pings the gateway for my DSL
router, so I know that my connection is always up, and when it goes down, I
know it before qwest (my isp) does.
Troy Sosamon
===== Original Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 11/26/02 11:50 am
>It's something like this, in the internet:
>
>1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 network)
>11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc.
>51-100 ms: Typical for Frame Relay, DSL, ISDN etc.
>101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems
>301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion
>1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure
>
>You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a packet
>drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional packet to
>be hundreds of ms more than it should be.
>
>Robert Shubert
>Tronics
>
>"Campbell, Steve V." wrote:
>>
>> Since this seems to be the topic at hand:
>>
>> I created an application that goes out and runs a set of externals that
>> returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.
>>
>> The hard part of this application I received help with from this list,
>> but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall.
>>
>> I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find out ping
>> rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to assign
>> different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I have no
>> idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even know where to
>> start on the web trying to find that information.
>>
>> Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! Thank
>> you!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>>
>> Who server is it now :-)
>>
>> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
>> Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
>> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping
>>
>> Poing!
>>
>> >Pong!
>> >
>> >I was wondering if there was a problem too...
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46
>> >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
>> >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping
>> >
>> >
>> >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make sure I
>> didn't
>> >get bounced from the list.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >Steve Fogelson
>> >Internet Commerce Solutions
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:35:51 -0500
From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify
As far as I know, there are no rules for the list, it's always been
something that we should be doing. I've seen answers that have been provided
that were well intended, and were in some ways correct, but were not
accurate for the specific question because the original post failed to
include that it was a specific platform, etc. It was a gentle reminder that
I used to post (when I was list Mom) whenever a new version went into
production which as we all know, hasn't happened in a very, very, long time.
The response that Atrix sent made me remember.
Hope this helps,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Campbell, Steve V.
> Sent: November 26, 2002 1:53 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify
>
>
> Steve
>
> Is this the new rule now?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify
>
> Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, we've now got
> readers who are using at least 3 different versions of Witango/Tango
> (3.x,
> 2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help everyone if when you post to
> the
> list, you could provide some general information when asking a question.
> I
> was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the product
> is
> Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are using Witango
> 5.0
> or greater.
>
> Please include version, platform, database, method of connection (ODBC,
> iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be relevant to your
> question.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Smith
>
> Oakbridge Information Solutions
> Office: (519) 624-4388
> GTA: (416) 606-3885
> Fax: (519) 624-3353
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:04:16 -0600
From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <@INCLUDE> problem
Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file?
Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame?
If so, is there another method to use?
I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src file. That
src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. =20
The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e., the If/Else
statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than the correct output.
There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in for good measure (like
so): ]]>
I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc., without any
luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View Source. I've
stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and
still have the same problem (which seems to eliminate the open tags
possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to
fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that Witango
just won't do.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
jamileh
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:51:02 -0800
From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem
This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE) reference is not
processed as a TAF by the server. It is just passed through as XML
inside.
The original @INCLUDE
Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm
Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wilcox, Jamileh
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem
Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file?
Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame?
If so, is there another method to use?
I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src file. That
src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file.
The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e., the If/Else
statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than the correct output.
There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in for good measure (like
so): ]]>
I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc., without any
luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View Source. I've
stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and
still have the same problem (which seems to eliminate the open tags
possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to
fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that Witango
just won't do.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
jamileh
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:09:29 -0600
From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem
Well, I tried using branch in the SRC file (instead of the INCLUDE), but
nothing shows up at all with that.
It sounds like you're saying I should set up the branch in the first
taf, but I don't know how to set up a branch within an <IFRAME>. Can
that be done?
Thanks! j
> -----Original Message-----
> From: run run [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:48 PM
> To: Wilcox, Jamileh
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem
>=20
>=20
>=20
> PLEASE REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS:
>=20
> First, you ought to try branch action for your parent=20
> frame and than use <@include> in your child frame.
>=20
> The "]]>" is an xml source of your tango code.
> It's not translated properly from tango.dtd partly
> because parant frame call(using <@include>) the
> <@include> source code of inner frame..
>=20
> Anyway, See Branch action for more detail, I think
> this will help you.=20
>=20
> Tabi..
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF
> > file?
> >=20
> > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline
> > frame?
> >=20
> > If so, is there another method to use?
> >=20
> > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a
> > taf src file. That
> > src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file.
> >=20
> > The browser shows the structure of the final taf
> > file (i.e., the If/Else
> > statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than
> > the correct output.
> > There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in
> > for good measure (like
> > so): ]]>
> >=20
> > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open
> > tags, etc., without any
> > luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View
> > Source. I've
> > stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML,
> > HEAD, BODY, etc.) and
> > still have the same problem (which seems to
> > eliminate the open tags
> > possibility). I've created new copies of all 3
> > tafs. Nothing seems to
> > fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing
> > something that Witango
> > just won't do.
> >=20
> > Any suggestions?
> >=20
> > Thanks!
> > jamileh
> >=20
> >
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:00:23 -0600
From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem
That would explain it. OK, back to the drawing board.
Thanks! j
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> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:51 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem
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> This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE)=20
> reference is not processed as a TAF by the server. It is just=20
> passed through as XML inside. The original @INCLUDE
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Wilcox,=20
> Jamileh
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk
> Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem
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> Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file?
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> Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame?
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> If so, is there another method to use?
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> I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src=20
> file. That src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. =20
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> The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e.,=20
> the If/Else statements, the Search statements, etc) rather=20
> than the correct output. There's also a couple of extra=20
> brackets thrown in for good measure (like
> so): ]]>
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> I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc.,=20
> without any luck, both looking through the tafs & using the=20
> View Source. I've stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials=20
> (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and still have the same problem=20
> (which seems to eliminate the open tags possibility). I've=20
> created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to fix this,=20
> so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that Witango=20
> just won't do.
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> Any suggestions?
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> Thanks!
> jamileh
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