hes getting his own message...you know how when you make a post to the list it comes back to you? hes getting his own message and replying to it over and over and over... :P
what im surprised about is that he isnt responding ad infinitum to the other messages people are sending as well ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Re: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #892 ( -Reply) What I'm trying to figure out is what kind of digest he's getting that arrives every 20 minutes. > -----Original Message----- > From: Atrix Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:52 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #892 ( -Reply) > > > this is like some crazy word problem... > > James went out of town for the weekend and auto-responds to > emails (including his own emails gotten from the witango > list) with a message saying he is out of town. If someone > other than James makes a post every 15 minutes and James has > his email auto-check and reply every 15 minutes, how long > will it take until James brings down the internet? > > anyone? Im taking bets (; > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:44 AM > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #892 ( -Reply) > > > This is an automatic reply. > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until Monday, > 2 Dec 2002. > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety > Office at ext. 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant > Safety Officer. If Rodney is not in, leaving a message on > our voice mail will page Rodney. > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police have my > cell phone number on file. > > Thanks and have a good holiday, > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 11:42 >>> > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 04:42:27 +1100 V01 #892 > > Today's topics: > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Javascript - OT' > 'Re: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #886 ( -Reply)' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:34:49 -0600 > From: "Harpreet Matharu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Javascript - OT > > > yup, the "_" will cause the problem in javascript. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fogelson, Steve > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:53 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > Subject: Witango-Talk: Javascript - OT > > > I'm using the SelectField method of Common.tcf from > Storefront. I believe I am having trouble with the javascript > in this method. > > I changed it to the following for debugging purposes > > <H3>Initialfield: <@VAR method$InitialField></H3><BR> > <SCRIPT> > <!-- > // Set focus on the first field > var objField; > > objField = document.forms[0].elements["<@VAR > method$InitialField>"]; if (objField) objField.focus(); > document.write("objField: "); > document.write(objField); > document.write("<BR>Forms: "); > document.write(document.forms[0].elements); > // --> > </SCRIPT> > > When I use it in a taf, objField displays: "undefined" > > Initialfield: U_Userid > > objField: undefined > Forms: [object] > > For testing purposes, I used the identical lookup.taf file > from StoreFront. I think the only difference is the field > name. Storefront uses "ShopperEmail", I used "U_Userid". > Would the "_" in the table name cause any problems or does > anyone have any other ideas why it would display "undefined"? > > Steve Fogelson > Internet Commerce Solutions > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:43:18 -0800 > From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #886 ( -Reply) > > > I bet someone could temporarily remove him from the list... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:53 AM > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #886 ( -Reply) > > > This is an automatic reply. > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until Monday, > 2 Dec 2002. > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety > Office at ext. 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant > Safety Officer. If Rodney is not in, leaving a message on > our voice mail will page Rodney. > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police have my > cell phone number on file. > > Thanks and have a good holiday, > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 10:20 >>> > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 03:20:09 +1100 V01 #886 > > Today's topics: > 'Re: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #882 ( -Reply)' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:18:19 -0800 > From: "Mark Bushaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #882 ( -Reply) > > > Does anyone have Rodney Barton's phone #? > If we all call, maybe he can get the system admin to disable > Dr. Sim's email! Mark Bushaw > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:59 AM > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #882 ( -Reply) > > > > Am I to assume that I'll get this every 5 minutes until this idiot > > returns to work? Goes to show that a PhD ain't what it used to be. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sims > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:48 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #882 ( -Reply) > > > > > > > > > This is an automatic reply. > > > > > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until > Monday, 2 Dec > > > 2002. > > > > > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety > Office at > > > ext. 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant Safety > Officer. If > > > Rodney is not in, leaving a message on our voice mail will page > > > Rodney. > > > > > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police > have my cell > > > phone number on file. > > > > > > Thanks and have a good holiday, > > > > > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > > > > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 09:33 >>> > > > > > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 02:33:40 +1100 V01 #882 > > > > > > Today's topics: > > > 'Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #881 ( -Reply)' > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:28:25 -0600 > > > From: "James Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #881 ( -Reply) > > > > > > > > > This is an automatic reply. > > > > > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until > Monday, 2 Dec > > > 2002. = =20 > > > > > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety > Office at > > > ext. > = > > > 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant Safety Officer. > If Rodney > > > is > = > > > not in, leaving a message on our voice mail will page Rodney.=20 > > > > > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police > have my cell > > > phone > = > > > number on file. > > > > > > Thanks and have a good holiday,=20 > > > > > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > > > > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 09:19 >>> > > > > > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 02:19:00 +1100 V01 #881 > > > > > > Today's topics: > > > 'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > > > 'Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #880 ( -Reply)' > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:19:46 -0600 > > > From: "John McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > > don't put the @include tag in the iframe source... put the url of > > > the > taf > > > that you want to populate that iframe... > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:00 PM > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > > That would explain it. OK, back to the drawing board. > > > > > > Thanks! j > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:51 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > > > > > This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE) > reference is > > > > not processed as a TAF by the server. It is just passed > through as > > > > XML inside. The original @INCLUDE > > > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > > > > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Wilcox, > > > > Jamileh > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > > > > > > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > > > > > > > > If so, is there another method to use? > > > > > > > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf > src file. > > > > That src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. > > > > > > > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file > (i.e., the > > > > If/Else statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than the > > > > correct output. There's also a couple of extra brackets > thrown in > > > > for good measure (like > > > > so): ]]> > > > > > > > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, etc., > > > > without any luck, both looking through the tafs & using > the View > > > > Source. I've stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials > (just HTML, > > > > HEAD, BODY, etc.) and still have the same problem > (which seems to > > > > eliminate the open tags possibility). I've created new > copies of > > > > all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to fix this, so I'm starting > to wonder > > > > if I'm doing something that Witango just won't do. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > jamileh > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:02:31 -0600 > > > From: "James Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Witango-Talk - witango-talk Digest - V01 #880 ( -Reply) > > > > > > > > > This is an automatic reply. > > > > > > I am out of the office from noon on 26 Nov 2002 until > Monday, 2 Dec > > > 2002. = =3D > > > =3D20 > > > > > > If you need immediate assistance, please call the Safety > Office at > > > ext. > = > > > =3D > > > 2697 and talk to Rodney Barton, Assistant Safety Officer. > If Rodney > > > is > = > > > =3D > > > not in, leaving a message on our voice mail will page Rodney.=3D20 > > > > > > In an emergency, both Rodney Barton and Campus Police > have my cell > > > phone > = > > > =3D > > > number on file. > > > > > > Thanks and have a good holiday,=3D20 > > > > > > James Sims, Ph.D., Safety Office > > > > > > >>> witango-talk 11/27/02 07:02 >>> > > > > > > witango-talk Digest Thu, 28 Nov 2002 00:02:00 +1100 V01 #880 > > > > > > Today's topics: > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping' > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping' > > > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up' > > > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up' > > > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up' > > > 'Please Clarify' > > > 'Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'OT - Happy Anniversary to Me' > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify' > > > 'RE: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'Re: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me' > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic' > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify' > > > '<@INCLUDE> problem' > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > > > 'RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > > > 'RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem' > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:25:54 -0500 > > > From: Web Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > Poing! > > > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure I > didn't > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > > --=3D20 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:37:12 -0800 > > > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D20 > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > Poing! > > > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure I > > > didn't > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > > --=3D20 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:02:29 -0600 > > > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > > > > > > > One more that I forgot to add to that last mail > > > I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user. > > > > > > @@local$nslookup > > > > > > But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the > > > scope would the command work like : > > > > > > @@nslookup > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:50:22 -0600 > > > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > > > > > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of > externals > > > that returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. =3D3D20 > > > > > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this > > > list, but, the last part of this application I have ran > into a wall. > > > > > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to > find out > > > ping rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I > am trying > > > to assign different images to different ping rates, but, to be > > > honest, I have no idea what is considered good or bad > AND, I don't > > > even know where to start on the web trying to find that > information. > > > > > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > > > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D3D2= > > > 0 > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > Poing! > > > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure I > > > didn't > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > > --=3D3D20 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:23:38 -0800 > > > From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > > > > > > > thats because without using a scope i believe it defaults to user > > > scope. local scope is just like it implies...local and > temporary. > > > user scope sticks with the user until you change or purge it. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:02 AM > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > > > > > > > One more that I forgot to add to that last mail > > > I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user. > > > > > > @@local$nslookup > > > > > > But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the > > > scope would the command work like : > > > > > > @@nslookup > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:25:29 -0500 > > > From: "Tom Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > you might find something useful and dslreports.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Campbell, Steve > > > >V. > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:50 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set > of externals > that > > > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. =3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > The hard part of this application I received help with > from this > > > >list, but, the last part of this application I have ran into a > > > >wall. =3D20 I need to know where I can be "steered" out > on the web > > > >to find out > ping > > > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to > assign > > > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I > > > >have no idea what is considered good or bad AND, I > don't even know > > > >where to start on the web trying to find that information. =3D20 > > > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! > Thank > > > > you! > > > >=3D20 > > > > Steve > > > >=3D20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D20 > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >=3D20 > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > >=3D20 > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > > > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D2= > > > 0 > > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws =3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >=3D20 > > > > Poing! > > > >=3D20 > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure > > > > >I > > > > didn't > > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > _ > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > _ > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > --=3D20 > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > >=3D20 > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:30:51 -0800 > > > From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > well if you think about it logicly...what do you consider good > > > response > = > > > =3D > > > time > > > for a server? If your at a web page and it opens up in half a > > > second > (500 > > > ms) thats pretty good isnt it? 2 seconds is kinda iffy and 5 > > > seconds > and > > > above id say is kinda slow. ::shrug:: :P > > > > > > another thing to consider with network speed besides ping is > > > avaliable bandwidth. Im not sure how youd use this in your > > > calculations or if you even can very easily but if im a > server with > > > 1 megabyte per second with > 3 > > > users at 330k apeice (leaving aprox 10k bandwidth left) but have > > > quad > xeon > > > processors...the ping reply is going to be fast since a ping is > > > small > and > > > the processor isnt bogged down, but if someone tried to download a > larger > > > file from me, it would take a long time since there is only > > > 10k/second bandwidth left. > > > > > > Make sense? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:50 AM > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > > > > > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of > externals > > > that returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > > > > > > The hard part of this application I received help with from this > > > list, but, the last part of this application I have ran > into a wall. > > > > > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to > find out > > > ping rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I > am trying > > > to assign different images to different ping rates, but, to be > > > honest, I have no idea what is considered good or bad > AND, I don't > > > even know where to start on the web trying to find that > information. > > > > > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > > > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > Poing! > > > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure I > > > didn't > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > _ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:32:27 -0800 > > > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > > > > > > > Just a clarification, if you do not specify scope it > defaults to the > > > "DEFAULTSCOPE=3D3D" that is defined in the T4SERVER.INI and new > > > WITANGO.INI= . > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D20 > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atrix Wolfe > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:24 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: Re: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > > > > thats because without using a scope i believe it defaults to user > > > scope. local scope is just like it implies...local and > temporary. > > > user scope sticks with the user until you change or purge it. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list witango-talk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:02 AM > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Name Look Up > > > > > > > > > One more that I forgot to add to that last mail > > > I am using an external to find out the machine name of the user. > > > > > > @@local$nslookup > > > > > > But for some reason it's not returning. If I don't denoted the > > > scope would the command work like : > > > > > > @@nslookup > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:40:27 -0500 > > > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Please Clarify > > > > > > > > > Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, > we've now > > > got readers who are using at least 3 different versions of > > > Witango/Tango > (3.x, > > > 2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help everyone if when you > > > post to > = > > > =3D > > > the > > > list, you could provide some general information when asking a > > > question. > I > > > was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the > > > product > is > > > Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are using > > > Witango > 5.0 > > > or greater. > > > > > > Please include version, platform, database, method of connection > > > (ODBC, iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be > > > relevant to your question. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Steve Smith > > > > > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > > > Office: (519) 624-4388 > > > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > > > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > > > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:50:52 -0500 > > > From: Robert Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > It's something like this, in the internet: > > > > > > 1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 > network) > > > 11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. 51-100 ms: Typical for Frame > > > Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > > > 301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > > > 1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > > > > > You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a > > > packet drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the > occasional > > > packet to be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > > > > > Robert Shubert > > > Tronics > > > > > > "Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > > > >=3D20 > > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > >=3D20 > > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set > of externals > that > > > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > > > >=3D20 > > > > The hard part of this application I received help with > from this > > > >list, but, the last part of this application I have ran into a > > > >wall. =3D20 I need to know where I can be "steered" out > on the web > > > >to find out > ping > > > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to > assign > > > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I > > > >have no idea what is considered good or bad AND, I > don't even know > > > >where to start on the web trying to find that information. =3D20 > > > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! > Thank > > > > you! > > > >=3D20 > > > > Steve > > > >=3D20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >=3D20 > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > >=3D20 > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > > > >http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > >=3D20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >=3D20 > > > > Poing! > > > >=3D20 > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure > > > > >I > > > > didn't > > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > _ > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > _ > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > >=3D20 > > > > -- > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > >=3D20 > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:51:22 -0500 > > > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure why I remember this kind of useless trivia, but if my > memory > > > serves me correctly, I joined EveryWare on November 25th 1995. > > > Yesterday marked 7 years since I first used Tango and became a > > > member of the =3D original Tango-Talk list and I've enjoyed every > > > minute. > > > > > > Thank you to all of you who have made the last 7 years so > enjoyable > > > and > I > > > look forward to spending many more years here. > > > > > > Steve Smith > > > > > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > > > Office: (519) 624-4388 > > > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > > > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > > > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:59:13 -0500 > > > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what your ultimate goal is but wouldn't it > be useful to > store > > > this information over time and compare current results to an > > > average? > > > > > > Just a thought, > > > > > > Steve Smith > > > > > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > > > Office: (519) 624-4388 > > > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > > > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > > > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Robert Shubert > > > > Sent: November 26, 2002 1:51 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > > > > It's something like this, in the internet: > > > > > > > > 1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local > 10/100 network) > > > > 11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. 51-100 ms: Typical > for Frame > > > > Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > > > > 301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > > > > 1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > > > > > > > You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a > packet > > > > drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the occasional > > > > packet to be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > > > > > > > Robert Shubert > > > > Tronics > > > > > > > > "Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > > > > > > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set of > > > > > externals > =3D > > > that > > > > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > > > > > > > > > > The hard part of this application I received help > with from this > list, > > > > > but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > > > > > > > > > > I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the > web to find > > > > > out > =3D > > > ping > > > > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I > am trying to > > > > > =3D > > > assign > > > > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be > honest, I > > > > > have > no > > > > > idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even > know where > > > > > to start on the web trying to find that information. > > > > > > > > > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly > appreciated! > =3D > > > Thank > > > > > you! > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > > > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > Poing! > > > > > > > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to make > > > > > >sure I > > > > > didn't > > > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >___= > > > =3D > > > _ > > > > > _ > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in > the message > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >___= > > > =3D > > > _ > > > > > _ > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in > the message > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ___= > > > =3D > > > _ > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > > =3D > > > m > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ___= > > > =3D > > > _ > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > > =3D > > > m > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ___= > > > =3D > > > _ > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > > =3D > > > m > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:04:28 -0500 > > > From: Web Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > Since I have several T1's, with 30+ sites, ping rates have > > > always=3D20 been paramount in testing the connection. > Unfortunately, > > > ping rates=3D20 will fluctuate widely according to > connections, time > > > of day, other=3D20 traffic, etc. Normally, I can get > pings of 10 ms > > > or less to sites=3D20 like google.com, alexa.com, > netsol.com sending > > > 56 byte packages..=3D20 Sometimes the rates will go down > to 4 to 5 > > > ms. Of cource this is T1=3D20 rates and my bandwidth for > each pipe > > > is rated at 1.5 mgs per sec,=3D20 point to point. As soon > as you get > > > into ISDN and DSL, the rates=3D20 change. Also, local trafiic on > > > your network and any subnets you are=3D20 on with your > provider also > > > can be a factor. > > > > > > On really bad or heavy days, I have seen these rates go up to 50 > ms.=3D20 > > > Of course when pinging, let's say, Brazil, rates can be 500 ms to > in=3D20 > > > the thousands with many packet losses. > > > > > > Hope this helps... > > > > > > >Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > > > > > > > > > >I created an application that goes out and runs a set of > externals > > > >that returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers.=3D20 > > > > > > > >The hard part of this application I received help with from this > > > >list, but, the last part of this application I have ran into a > > > >wall. > > > > > > > >I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web > to find out > > > >ping rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I > am trying > > > >to assign different images to different ping rates, but, to be > > > >honest, I have no idea what is considered good or bad > AND, I don't > > > >even know where to start on the web trying to find that > > > >information. > > > > > > > >Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly > appreciated! > > > >Thank you! > > > > > > > >Steve > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > >Who server is it now :-) > > > > > > > >Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > >Authorized Witango Reseller > > > >http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > >Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > >Poing! > > > > > > > >>Pong! > > > >> > > > >>I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > >>From: Fogelson, Steve > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >>Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > >>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >>Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure I > > > >didn't > > > >>get bounced from the list. > > > >> > > > >>Thanks > > > >> > > > >>Steve Fogelson > > > >>Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > >>____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >>_ > > > >_ > > > >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > >> body > > > > >>____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >>_ > > > >_ > > > >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > >> body > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > > --=3D20 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:52:50 -0600 > > > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > Is this the new rule now? > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:40 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > > > > Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta world, > we've now > > > got readers who are using at least 3 different versions of > > > Witango/Tango (3.x, 2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help > > > everyone if when you post to the > > > list, you could provide some general information when > asking a question. > > > I > > > was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct > if the product > > > is > > > Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you are > using Witango > > > 5.0 > > > or greater. > > > > > > Please include version, platform, database, method of connection > > > (ODBC, iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be > > > relevant to your question. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Steve Smith > > > > > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > > > Office: (519) 624-4388 > > > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > > > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > > > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:10:58 -0600 > > > From: "Campbell, Steve V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > THANK YOU! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Robert Shubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:51 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > It's something like this, in the internet: > > > > > > 1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local 10/100 > network) > > > 11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. 51-100 ms: Typical for Frame > > > Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > > > 301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > > > 1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > > > > > You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a > > > packet drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the > occasional > > > packet to be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > > > > > Robert Shubert > > > Tronics > > > > > > "Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > I created an application that goes out and runs a set > of externals > > > that > > > > returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > The hard part of this application I received help with > from this > > > >list, but, the last part of this application I have ran into a > > > >wall. =3D3D20 I need to know where I can be "steered" > out on the > > > >web to find out > > > ping > > > > rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am trying to > > > assign > > > > different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I > > > >have no idea what is considered good or bad AND, I > don't even know > > > >where to start on the web trying to find that > information. =3D3D20 > > > > Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly appreciated! > > > Thank > > > > you! > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Steve > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Who server is it now :-) > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > > > >http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Poing! > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > >Pong! > > > > > > > > > >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted to > make sure > > > > >I > > > > didn't > > > > >get bounced from the list. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > > >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > > _ > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >____ > > > > _ > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:25:51 -0500 > > > From: "THOMAS PETERS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy Anniversary to Me > > > > > > > > > <html><div style=3D3D'background-color:'><DIV> > > > <P>you da man...<BR><BR></P></DIV> <DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>Thomas > > > Peters=3D20 <DIV></DIV> > > > <DIV></DIV>Imagery Graphics=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>Home: 603-598-7544=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>Mobile: 603-566-5406=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV> > > > <DIV></DIV> > > > <DIV></DIV> > > > <DIV></DIV>>From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > <WITANGO-TALK@W= > > > =3D > > > ITANGO.COM> > > > <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Witango-Talk: OT - Happy > Anniversary to Me=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:51:22 -0500=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>I'm not sure why I remember this kind of > useless trivia, > = > > > =3D > > > but if my memory=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>serves me correctly, I joined EveryWare on > November > > > 25th > = > > > =3D > > > 1995. Yesterday=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>marked 7 years since I first used Tango > and became a > > > member = =3D > > > of the original=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Tango-Talk list and I've enjoyed every minute.=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Thank you to all of you who have made the > last 7 years so > = > > > =3D > > > enjoyable and I=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>look forward to spending many more years > here.=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 <DIV></DIV>>Steve Smith=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Oakbridge Information Solutions=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Office: (519) 624-4388=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>GTA: (416) 606-3885=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Fax: (519) 624-3353=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Cell: (416) 606-3885=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>___________________________________________________ > > > _________= > > > =3D > > > ____________=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII > email to =3D > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV>> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body=3D20 > > > <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3D3Dall><hr>Add photos to your > e-mail with <a > = > > > =3D > > > href=3D3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMFEN/2022";>MSN 8.</a> Get 2 months > > > FREE*.</htm= > > > l>=3D > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:29:50 -0700 > > > From: Troy Sosamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping Rate-Off Topic > > > > > > > > > Something else to think about is what you are pinging. > > > Are you pinging all the way across the internet to someone else's > > > server, = =3D > > > or=3D20 > > > are you pinging your gateway router. > > > You might want to think about using tracert or neo trace > where you can > =3D > > > see=3D20 > > > the timing of each hop along the way. Once you get past your > > > firewall,=3D2= 0 > > > router, and your ISPs gateway, you don't have any control over > > > the timing. = > > > =3D > > > =3D20 > > > I have an automated IP monitor that continually pings the > gateway for my > = > > > =3D > > > DSL=3D20 > > > router, so I know that my connection is always up, and > when it goes > > > down, = =3D > > > I=3D20 > > > know it before qwest (my isp) does. > > > > > > Troy Sosamon > > > > > > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D Original Message from > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = > > > at 11/26/02 =3D > > > 11:50 am > > > >It's something like this, in the internet: > > > > > > > >1-10 ms (milliseconds): Excellent (typically local > 10/100 network) > > > >11-50 ms: Typical for T1s, T3s, etc. 51-100 ms: Typical > for Frame > > > >Relay, DSL, ISDN etc. 101-300 ms: Typical for 56K dial-up Modems > > > >301+ ms: getting bad, probably some congestion > > > >1000+ ms (1 second): horrible, mis-route or some other failure > > > > > > > >You should always do about 10 pings and get the average, since a > > > >packet drop, a route build, or a collision can cause the > occasional > > > >packet to be hundreds of ms more than it should be. > > > > > > > >Robert Shubert > > > >Tronics > > > > > > > >"Campbell, Steve V." wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Since this seems to be the topic at hand: > > > >> > > > >> I created an application that goes out and runs a set of > > > >> externals > that > > > >> returns ping rates on IP's and Port Numbers. > > > >> > > > >> The hard part of this application I received help with > from this > list, > > > >> but, the last part of this application I have ran into a wall. > > > >> > > > >> I need to know where I can be "steered" out on the web to find > > > >> out > ping > > > >> rates and what is considered good, okay and bad. I am > trying to > assign > > > >> different images to different ping rates, but, to be honest, I > > > >> have > no > > > >> idea what is considered good or bad AND, I don't even > know where > > > >> to start on the web trying to find that information. > > > >> > > > >> Any knowledge in this area or help would be greatly > appreciated! > Thank > > > >> you! > > > >> > > > >> Steve > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:37 AM > > > >> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >> > > > >> Who server is it now :-) > > > >> > > > >> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > >> Authorized Witango Reseller > > > >> http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > > > >> Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Web Dude > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:26 AM > > > >> To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >> > > > >> Poing! > > > >> > > > >> >Pong! > > > >> > > > > >> >I was wondering if there was a problem too... > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > > > >> >From: Fogelson, Steve > > > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >> >Sent: 25 November 2002 22:46 > > > >> >To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > >> >Subject: Witango-Talk: Ping > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >My web services were down this weekend. Just wanted > to make sure > > > >> >I > > > >> didn't > > > >> >get bounced from the list. > > > >> > > > > >> >Thanks > > > >> > > > > >> >Steve Fogelson > > > >> >Internet Commerce Solutions > > > >> > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> _ > > > >> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > >> > body > > > >> > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> _ > > > >> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > >> > body > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]= > > > =3D > > > > > > >> with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > __________ > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:35:51 -0500 > > > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > > > > > > > As far as I know, there are no rules for the list, it's > always been > > > something that we should be doing. I've seen answers that > have been > > > =3D provided that were well intended, and were in some > ways correct, > > > but were not accurate for the specific question because > the original > > > post failed to include that it was a specific platform, > etc. It was > > > a gentle reminder > =3D > > > that > > > I used to post (when I was list Mom) whenever a new version went > > > into production which as we all know, hasn't happened in a very, > > > very, long > =3D > > > time. > > > The response that Atrix sent made me remember. > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > Steve Smith > > > > > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > > > Office: (519) 624-4388 > > > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > > > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > > > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Campbell, > > > > Steve V. > > > > Sent: November 26, 2002 1:53 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > Is this the new rule now? > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:40 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: Witango-Talk: Please Clarify > > > > > > > > Now that one platform has left the version 5 Beta > world, we've now > > > > got readers who are using at least 3 different versions of > > > > Witango/Tango (3.x, 2000/4.x, and 5.x). Therefore it would help > > > > everyone if when you post > to > > > > the > > > > list, you could provide some general information when asking a > question. > > > > I > > > > was reading the reply that Atrix sent, which is correct if the > > > > product is Witango 4.x/2000 and earlier but is incorrect if you > > > > are using Witango 5.0 > > > > or greater. > > > > > > > > Please include version, platform, database, method of connection > (ODBC, > > > > iODBC, OCI, etc.) and any other details that would be > relevant to > > > > your question. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Steve Smith > > > > > > > > Oakbridge Information Solutions > > > > Office: (519) 624-4388 > > > > GTA: (416) 606-3885 > > > > Fax: (519) 624-3353 > > > > Cell: (416) 606-3885 > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Web: http://www.oakbridge.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:04:16 -0600 > > > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > > > > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > > > > > > If so, is there another method to use? > > > > > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src file. > > > That src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. =3D3D20 > > > > > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e., the > > > If/Else statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than the > > > correct output. There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in > > > for good measure (like > > > so): ]]> > > > > > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, > etc., without > > > any luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View Source. > > > I've stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, > HEAD, BODY, > > > etc.) and still have the same problem (which seems to > eliminate the > > > open tags possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 tafs. > > > Nothing seems to fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing > > > something that Witango just won't do. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > jamileh > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:51:02 -0800 > > > From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > > This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE) > reference is > > > not processed as a TAF by the server. It is just passed > through as > > > XML inside. The original @INCLUDE > > > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D20 > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Wilcox, Jamileh > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > > > > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > > > > > > If so, is there another method to use? > > > > > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src file. > > > That src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. =3D20 > > > > > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file (i.e., the > > > If/Else statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than the > > > correct output. There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in > > > for good measure (like > > > so): ]]> > > > > > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, > etc., without > > > any luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View Source. > > > I've stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, > HEAD, BODY, > > > etc.) and still have the same problem (which seems to > eliminate the > > > open tags possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 tafs. > > > Nothing seems to fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing > > > something that Witango just won't do. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > jamileh > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:09:29 -0600 > > > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > > Well, I tried using branch in the SRC file (instead of > the INCLUDE), > > > but nothing shows up at all with that. > > > > > > It sounds like you're saying I should set up the branch > in the first > > > taf, but I don't know how to set up a branch within an <IFRAME>. > > > Can that be done? > > > > > > Thanks! j > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: run run [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:48 PM > > > > To: Wilcox, Jamileh > > > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > >=3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > PLEASE REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS: > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > First, you ought to try branch action for your parent=3D3D20 > > > >frame and than use <@include> in your child frame. =3D3D20 > > > > The "]]>" is an xml source of your tango code. > > > > It's not translated properly from tango.dtd partly > > > > because parant frame call(using <@include>) the > > > > <@include> source code of inner frame.. > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Anyway, See Branch action for more detail, I think > > > > this will help you.=3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Tabi.. > > > >=3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > --- "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline > > > > > frame? > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > If so, is there another method to use? > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a > > > > > taf src file. That > > > > > src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf file. > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf > > > > > file (i.e., the If/Else > > > > > statements, the Search statements, etc) rather than > > > > > the correct output. > > > > > There's also a couple of extra brackets thrown in > > > > > for good measure (like > > > > > so): ]]> > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open > > > > > tags, etc., without any > > > > > luck, both looking through the tafs & using the View > > > > > Source. I've > > > > > stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials (just HTML, > > > > > HEAD, BODY, etc.) and > > > > > still have the same problem (which seems to > > > > > eliminate the open tags > > > > > possibility). I've created new copies of all 3 > > > > > tafs. Nothing seems to > > > > > fix this, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing > > > > > something that Witango > > > > > just won't do. > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > jamileh > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > __________ > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to=3D3D20 > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message > > > > > body > > > >=3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.=3D3D20 > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:00:23 -0600 > > > From: "Wilcox, Jamileh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: RE: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > > > > > > > That would explain it. OK, back to the drawing board. > > > > > > Thanks! j > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=3D3D20 > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:51 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > >=3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > This is because the sub TAF (TAF Call in an @INCLUDE)=3D3D20 > > > >reference is not processed as a TAF by the server. It is > > > >just=3D3D20 passed through as XML inside. The original @INCLUDE > > > >=3D3D20 Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > > Authorized Witango Reseller > > > http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm=3D3= > > > D2=3D > > > 0 > > > > Latest downloads & List Archives @ http://www.witango.ws =3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D3D20 > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of > Wilcox,=3D3D20 > > > > Jamileh > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:04 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk > > > > Subject: Witango-Talk: <@INCLUDE> problem > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Is there a problem with using <@INCLUDE> with a TAF file? > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Or a problem with nesting <@INCLUDE> in an inline frame? > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > If so, is there another method to use? > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > I've got an entry page that uses an IFrame with a taf src=3D3D20 > > > > file. That src file has an <@INCLUDE> for another taf > file. =3D3D20 > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > The browser shows the structure of the final taf file > (i.e.,=3D3D20 > > > > the If/Else statements, the Search statements, etc) > rather=3D3D20 > > > > than the correct output. There's also a couple of extra=3D3D20 > > > > brackets thrown in for good measure (like > > > > so): ]]> > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > I've searched all 3 tafs for open brackets, open tags, > etc.,=3D3D20 > > > > without any luck, both looking through the tafs & using > the=3D3D20 > > > > View Source. I've stripped all 3 tafs down to essentials=3D3D20 > > > > (just HTML, HEAD, BODY, etc.) and still have the same > problem=3D3D20 > > > > (which seems to eliminate the open tags possibility). > I've=3D3D20 > > > > created new copies of all 3 tafs. Nothing seems to fix > this,=3D3D20 > > > > so I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing something that > Witango=3D3D20 > > > > just won't do. > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Any suggestions? > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > Thanks! > > > > jamileh > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to=3D3D20 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > __________ > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to=3D3D20 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the > message body > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #880 > > > *********************************** > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #881 > > > *********************************** > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #882 > > > *********************************** > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > ____ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #886 > *********************************** > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > > ------------------------------ > > > End of witango-talk Digest V01 #892 > *********************************** > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body > ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
