Very Interesting! I have multiple domains and a single mail server. The mail server has its own domain (smtpmirage.net). All the hosted domains A records point directly to the IP address. The MX record points to mail@<domain>.com (and mail@<domain>.com is an A record that points to the IP address). Seems to work OK......
Mark Bushaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:36 PM Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: including snippets of code [OT] > Interesting > > Didn't realize that because I have multiple domains on mine. > > >Anyway, it's just a rant. I had a server crash on me earlier this year > > >when it got hijaced by a spammer, and I've spent a lot of hours this > year > >fighting off spam. But I still think it's better to allow mail from > >senders that don't pass the reverse lookup, and instead rely on black > >hole lists at the server, and some simple filters on the mail readers. > > >Because I don't want to have to tell my clients that we can't receive > >mail from them. > > Considering turning it off. > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller > http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: including snippets of code [OT] > > Off-topic: > > I would send this directly, but it might bounce. > > One problem w/ PTR records is they map one-to-one to A records. But > many > names (both A and CNAME records) map to one PTR. Hence if you support > many domains with a single mail server, you can't satisfy the reverse > lookup condition. > > Also, you can't always keep PTRs up to date unless you run the reverse > zone for your subnet. Some ISPs will NOT provide classless delegation, > so you have to depend on the ISP to maintain your PTRs, leaving you at > their mercy -- not a good thing in my opinion. > > For most of our clients for whom we provide mail, I ask them to use our > server for POP, but continue to use their ISP for SMTP. Some though > prefer to use our server for both, and the consequence is that AOL just > doesn't get messages from them. > > Of course AOL's hypocracy is the big story, since they and hotmail have > been big spam sources. And much spam now flows through open relays, > which may still have PTR records that match the A record, so what does > that do? > > Anyway, it's just a rant. I had a server crash on me earlier this year > when it got hijaced by a spammer, and I've spent a lot of hours this > year > fighting off spam. But I still think it's better to allow mail from > senders that don't pass the reverse lookup, and instead rely on black > hole lists at the server, and some simple filters on the mail readers. > > Because I don't want to have to tell my clients that we can't receive > mail from them. > > >Hi, > > > >Sorry you couldn't connect. > > > >I went to dnsreport.com and your mail server doesn't reverse DNS > >(checkout fail in MX section) > > > >http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=internetcommercesolu > t > >ions.net > > > >In order to curb spam there is a shift in this, AOL has shifted to this > >and those who have mail servers that don't have PTR (reverse DNS) > cannot > >post to AOL. There are a bunch of companies that are following suit > > > > > >Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > >Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm > >Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller > >http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:26 PM > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: including snippets of code > > > >Ben, > > > >I have had that trouble in the past as well. You might want to check it > >out. > >I was going to buy a Witango update from you on the day before the > price > >increases, but couldn't get through you email server. > > > >Have made the update since. > > > >Steve Fogelson > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: John McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:13 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: including snippets of code > > > > > >Ben, > > > >I tried to send this post to you off the list, but your mail server > >doesn't seem to be accepting any thing from my mail server. > > > >Anyway, see my comments below about nested @includes. > > > > > >Ben Johansen wrote: > > > >>Off List, > >> > >>Now, I remember (coffee finally kicked in) > >> > >>The reason your sub-include of the TML works is because TML is one of > >>the extensions setup in the web server to tell the web server that > >>Witango is responsible to process this file. > >> > >> > > > >No, the @include tag doesn't interact at all with the web server. It > >also doesn't care about file extensions. When the app server comes > >across an @include, it doesn't care what file extension it is... it > >simply includes the file and evaluates any meta code it comes across. > > > >>In the case where an included HTML file calling a SUB-HTML file this > is > >>not the case. The SUB would not have its metatags processed > >> > >> > >Yes they are... See the enclosed example... I just tested this out. > > > >test.taf does an @include of test1.html > > > >test1.html does an @include of test2.html > >test2.html does an @include of test3.html > >test3.html executes @currentdate. > > > > > >/John > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > _ > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > > > Bill Conlon > > To the Point > 345 California Avenue Suite 2 > Palo Alto, CA 94306 > > office: 650.327.2175 > fax: 650.329.8335 > mobile: 650.906.9929 > e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: http://www.tothept.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf
