Alan,
 
Mozilla is of course the definitive open-source browser/toolkit, and Mozilla.org is an open-source community that develops and supports all kinds of open-source development tools, including Bugzilla (the definitive web-based bug-tracking application).  Mozilla was the original internal/codename for Netscape Navigator, and unless I'm mistaken still the core engine that almost all browsers today are based upon... and also I believe the mozilla.org group was started by ex-netscape engineers.
 
Anyway, the main difference between Mozilla and IE is that Mozilla (not sure about Firebird) is essentially designed with developers in mind, allowing you to see individual cookies and delete them, use tabbed browsing for easy multi-tasking without wasting screen real-estate, exceptionally customized browsing (allowing you to setup different types of behaivors for different sites (i.e. block cookies on one site, and block images on another), etc.
 
Also, OSX's Safari is based on Mozilla's "raptor" engine and was built largely from the Mozilla source.  The idea with Mozilla is to support as many open-standards as possible, and have as few proprietary specifics as possible.  It is under constant development, and for a developer of any scale, it is a must-have tool... even if it is just so that you can have two entirely different Tango sessions open on the same machine.    
 
As for Firebird... from the docs, it looks like it is an enhanced version of the Mozilla browser-only (Mozilla itself, like the old Communicator has Mail/News/Web/Editing, etc.), and I'll have to check it out.

Jim Kass
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Witango-Talk: A great new browser

A buddy of mine just told me about this cool new browser that so far has been really really nice.
 
Ive been using it for a couple days now and its really cool.
 
Its called Mozilla Firebird and is very lightweight (6.8MB download for windows, 11.0MB for mac, 9.2MB for linux) and it supports everything that a real browser should...like _javascript_ (as well as ie does(which i think is better than NS does)), plugins (flash), etc.
 
Its not susceptable to spyware and after you download it you only unzip it to a directory.  Theres no install so theres no registry entries or DLLs spread around the system so less places for it to fail.
 
Some clients of ours are on IE for mac and its just attrocious the problems they have from spyware and buggy versions of mac ie (ns is far worse tho) so if this works nearly as good as it seems we are stylin.  If any of you out there are having browser issues you might want to take a look too.
 
Anyways, try it out, have a look, it really is a good browser, not like all those other browser clones you see out there, and is even better than the mainstream ones i think.
 
 
its on the left side about 1/3 down the page.  A self described lean mean browsing machine.
 
and best of all, its free! (:
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