Probably because I dunno jack about networking & security, and we knew
it should be possible with certs.  :-)

I'll check into this...thanks.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Customer Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT: Looking for help - Certificates and SQL
> 
> 
> Why not do it all at the network level using IPSec - VPN.
> 
> If the data is going through a firewall this is probably easier to  
> administer and is less hassle in the long run.  It also ensures that  
> all data to and from the server is encrypted, not just the 
> information  
> to and from the db.  Talk to your network guys and see what 
> they can do  
> for you.
> 
> Witango Support
> 
> 
> On 10/12/2003, at 10:49 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
> 
> > Yes, but what about when
> >
> > Witango (ODBC <---(via SSL)---> SQL Server??
> >
> > I think this article is saying to just set the "Force protocol
> > encryption"
> > property in the "Server Network Utility" and the "Client Network  
> > Utility"
> > and you're done (or something like that).
> >
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/
> > dnnetsec/ht
> > ml/SecNetHT19.asp?frame=true
> >
> > Hope this helps. Cheers....
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:33 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT: Looking for help - Certificates and 
> >> SQL
> >>
> >> Whoa here ;-)
> >>
> >> HTTPS is for SSL com to IIS on port 443
> >> SQL talks on port 1433 to ODBC
> >>
> >>
> >> Browser(https) <--> IIS(SSL) port 443
> >>
> >> Witango (ODBC <--> SQL Odbc Driver port 1433
> >>
> >> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> >> Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller
> >> Available for Witango Developement
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:21 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT: Looking for help - Certificates and 
> >> SQL
> >>
> >> Hi Jamileh,
> >>
> >> Maybe that's the trick to get this working.
> >>
> >> In IIS when SSL is installed, HTTPS listens on port 443 instead of 
> >> the default 80.
> >>
> >> Maybe when SSL is installed with SQL Server, it doesn't 
> listen on the 
> >> default port 1433 anymore - maybe it's just listening on a 
> different 
> >> port?
> >>
> >> Maybe Enterprise Manager and the other SQL Client components just 
> >> have to be configured for the different port?
> >>
> >> In the SQL Server Client Network Utility, you can 
> configure different 
> >> ports for the default and there is a flag to "Force protocol 
> >> encryption"
> >>
> >> Hope this helps. Cheers......
> >>
> >> Scott Cadillac,
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> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Wilcox, Jamileh (HSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:10 PM
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OT: Looking for help -
> >> Certificates and SQL
> >>>
> >>> Dunno, I'll have to ask.  I hadn't even gotten as far as 
> trying to 
> >>> set up any https files, and hadn't installed certs on IIS 
> yet.  We 
> >>> were just trying to get the boxes to talk over the 
> default SQL port.
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Jeff Bohmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:59 PM
> >>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT: Looking for help -
> >>> Certificates and SQL
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> A quick thought:  do you have port 443 open to your web
> >>> server(s) on
> >>>> any firewalls and in W2K network config?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Jeff
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> OK, we have need to secure our internal communications
> >>>> between servers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Plan:  set up inhouse Certificate Authority, and use those
> >>>> certificates
> >>>>> to encrypt communications between IIS and MSSQL servers.
> >>>> The ultimate
> >>>>> goal is to have encrypted Witango websites available via the
> >>>> internet,
> >>>>> securely accessing restricted SQL databases behind our
> >>>> firewall.  We're
> >>>>> talking serious federal regs here; we've got to be sure 
> the data 
> >>>>> remains protected.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We've set up a CA on our intranet webserver and added
> >>>> certificates to
> >>>>> two test servers (IIS5 & MS-SQL2000, both on W2K).  The CA
> >>>> seems to be
> >>>>> working OK, and certs seem to install on the servers.  However, 
> >>>>> whenever we force encryption on the SQL server, we can't
> >>>> access it at
> >>>>> all - not from the web, not from Enterprise Manager, nada.
> >>>> (The data
> >>>>> was very safe, however.  ;^D)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No one here has ever done either of these things (inhouse
> >>> CA or SQL
> >>>>> using certs), so we've no clue where the problem is.  I'm
> >>> pushing to
> >>>>> get some help on this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If anyone on the list is interested in consulting on this,
> >>>> please send
> >>>>> me an email.  I'm not making the decisions, and we're
> >>>> notoriously slow
> >>>>> to spend money, so don't count on anything happening soon
> >>> or at all.
> >>>>> But if I can send some business to one of y'all rather
> >>> than M$, I'd
> >>>>> rather.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!     j
> >>>>>
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