Good point John,

Wouldn't be the first time that ever happened :-P


-----Original Message-----
From: John McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:46:55 -0600
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Secured User Access

> could the user be seeing a cached version of the home page or something
> showing them the login form?
> 
> Scott Cadillac wrote:
> 
> >Hi Stephen,
> >
> >Are your frame SRCs all pointing at the same domain they logged into? 
> >Remember https://domain.com != https://www.domain.com
> >
> >Also try removing the <@USERREFERENCEARGUMENT>
> >
> >I can't help but wonder what else is going on with your frame (or 
> >related) code (HTML/JavaScript). What you are describing is fairly 
> >standard stuff, and shouldn't be a problem.
> >
> >What logic are you using that determines when a user should be "thrown
> >back to the login screen" ?
> >
> >Let us know, when you have a moment. Cheers...
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Stephen Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:32:12 -0500
> >Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Secured User Access
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Scott,
> >>
> >>Thank you for your help and advice. I wasn't purposefully vague but  
> >>rather my situation is somewhat alluding me right now.
> >>
> >>In short, we have tested multiple versions of the login taf in which
> we
> >> 
> >>did everything from separation of the taf itself into various  
> >>components all the way to substituting the frame-set with a single
> page
> >> 
> >>taf. The user seems get validated just fine, because we register and 
> >>update their "last visited on" profile. But the frameset page comes  
> >>right after and that's when they are thrown back to the login screen.
>  
> >>The only way we are able to avoid this is by substituting with a  
> >>non-frame-set page. In each of the "src URL(s)" we do have the  
> >>UserReferenceArgument variable passed.
> >>
> >>I hope that's more clear than before. Please let me know if you need
> to
> >> 
> >>know more.
> >>
> >>Best,
> >>Stephen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Feb 18, 2004, at 12:48 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Hi Stephen,
> >>>
> >>>Please describe in detail what you mean by "but then are kicked back
> >>>out
> >>>of the site". This is kind of a vague description of the problem,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>which
> >>    
> >>
> >>>will likely lead to some vague answers.
> >>>
> >>>Here's me vague answer:
> >>>
> >>>A trend I'm noticing lately with Home computers over Office ones, is
> >>>the
> >>>rapid adoption of Popup and Cookie blocking add-ons for browsers.
> And
> >>>      
> >>>
> >> 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>of
> >>>course, people don't know how to properly set them.
> >>>
> >>>For the most part, by default these add-ons compensate for "session-
> >>>cookies" so they don't break Sessions necessarily - but if your code
> >>>relies on any other kind of cookies, then you're users are in
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>trouble.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I say this, because I notice Office computer "policies" are slower
> to
> >>>adopt (or allow install) these kinds of downloadable "free" add-ons.
> >>>
> >>>Lately I've taken to using some of these add-ons myself to make sure
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>my
> >>    
> >>
> >>>systems keep working. And I noticed two things:
> >>>
> >>>~~ Never rely on standard cookies (session-ccokies are still fine).
> >>>
> >>>~~ Popup window killers are not very smart, and sometimes can't tell
> >>>the
> >>>difference between a user-invoked "window.open" and an event-
> >>>invoked "window.open" call.
> >>>
> >>>Hope this helps. Cheers....
> >>>
> >>>Scott Cadillac,
> >>>403-281-6090 ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Stephen Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:10:32 -0500
> >>>Subject: Witango-Talk: Secured User Access
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>We have a site completely built on witango that is accessed via.
> the
> >>>>"https" gateway. It is built around multiple frames. When people
> try
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >> 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>to
> >>>>login, they seem to make it into our validation process, but then
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>are
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>kicked back out of the site. This happens only on windows machines
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>and
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>mostly on XP. No clients have problem from their office computers, 
> >>>>most
> >>>>occurrences only happen at home. Is there a security setting in XP
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>or
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>any of the windows systems that's causing this? Any other common
> >>>>experiences?
> >>>>
> >>>>Please advise,
> >>>>Stephen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
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