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Hey Gene,
I am also an "Old Timer" (Never thought I would
actually want to proudly admit that). I've been with Tango since 1997 as well. I
know what you were feeling though, us WiTango developers are left with
disappointment from Everyware and chips on our shoulders from
Pervasive.
I'll bet next time they'll have an auto-responder
like:
Gone on vacation. Didn't bring LapTop. We still
love WiTango, just not enough to bring it on vacation!
Phil & Sophie.
I would also like to know the progress of the java
runtime library, and compiler to J2EE.
Rick Sanders
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God
response Rick. However, all of us "old timers" with Tango were probably
feeling a little deja vu the last few days. It was like, "haven't I been
through this before, twice???" I know I was feeling some angst as well but was
hoping for the best. Phil and Sophie do need a break now and then and I'm glad
Phil has the smarts to take an "old fashioned" vacation. Certainly will
recharge the batteries. I have to say though that I am anxious to get the keys
that can be upgraded. I'm dying to try out the new java technology to see if
there's any speed increase.
Has
anyone exercised this yet? Any reports on what might be expected in terms of
reduced CPU load or speed increases. Yes, yes, I know, it depends on many
factors, database access, query length, etc., but there has to be some effect
that can be measured when moving tafs to java and I'd like to know if anyone
has any experience.
Welcome back Sophie and Phil!!
Hello,
And it was a shame that Everyware sold to
Pervasive.
Well, if it wasn't for Pervasive, Tango turning out XML
files wouldn't be a reality today. Everyware may have done a great job in
support, but the top executives didn't know how to run the company to turn
a profit.
Neither did
Pervasive, hence why they sold it. Both companies couldn't make money with
the product.
The shame was that Pervasive raped their
customers, and left them out in the cold. I paid Pervasive $24,000
and some change for an Enterprise license.
Yes, it was a hefty bill for the software. I also paid
large amounts for Tango product. However, I look at the money I've spent,
and made, and it was worth it.
All I get for that today is With telling
me that they won't support Tango, but I can't sell my license without
their permission. Okay, so I won't sell my license... but I will
give it away to anyone and everyone that asks.
Well,
unfortunately that's With Enterprises' rules. The reason why they don't
want you selling it is because they don't need the headaches of another
client asking why they can't upgrade to WiTango 5.5 from Tango 2000. With
Enterprise also owns the Tango 2000 technology, and they call the shots
with old product too. The only technology With didn't buy was the Tango 3
technology.
As far as
giving it away, that's not legal either. You don't own the software, you
have a license to use it. I believe that you need With's written
permission to transfer the license to someone else, but I'm not a
corporate lawyer.
As far as not
being able to contact Phil or Sophie, it is possible they may have taken a
much needed break. Their entire lives have been consumed by WiTango for
the past 3 years. I certainly hope nothing bad has happened to them, or
anyone within their organization. It would be nice to just know if they're
OK.
Remember one
thing ladies & gents:
Phil &
Sophie love the product as much as you do. And, they want to keep it going
and going as much as the rest of us. So, stop thinking the worst and have
a little faith!
Rick
Sanders
Hey! As a
former EveryWare employee I must take offense at that remark. We did our
best to respond to users within 24 business hours and those that were
paying customers (as apposed to evaluation users) were given priority.
However any organization will have it's good days and bad ones. I just
purchased a new Palm and have been trying to get the Mac 4.1 desktop for
two days now, finally got it late last night.
And there have
been other companies that I've dealt with in recent months where I don't
receive any response at all. Makes me wonder if they even received my
email or not.
I do recall seeing a post a few weeks ago stating
that Phil and Sophie were doing a month long tour of North America. But
I didn't think that they were taking everyone with them.
Hope
this helps,
Steve Smith
Oakbridge Information
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On
Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 09:40 AM, Tom Ferguson wrote:
Everywhere... Pervasive... With...
damn
shame
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I also sent an
e-mail to them, asking for what they had on
record for our keys
so I could determine just how many 5.5
licenses we could upgrade
to free. I also have not heard a response.
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Message-----
From: Tom Storey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Contact with
Australia
I sent an email to sales last Friday, about a
bad license #, and have
not hear a word. This makes me very
nervous.
John McGowan wrote:
Has anybody had any contact with Australia lately....
I'm having the
hardest time trying to buy a
product.
Trying to figure out if Phil and Sophie are on
Vacation or
something...
/John
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