You may also like to use <@logmessage> - I don't know
what the limit on the length of the message is but
it's pretty big - thus you could write out all args
and vars leaving out the sensitive ones...


--- Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is the logging something that you can turn on after,
> to try to  
> reproduce a problem that a user has reported? Or do
> you need to be able  
> to go back over the log files after a user has
> reported an error.
> 
> If it is the former, what I do is to have a
> "developer's" taf that  
> allows me to go in and turn debug on and off for the
> current user's  
> session. It's not the same as logging, but it has
> helped me track down  
> problems by going through and reproducing what the
> user did.
> 
> If you want more info on this, let me know.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Steve Smith
> 
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> On Wednesday, April 28, 2004, at 03:10 PM, John
> McGowan wrote:
> 
> > That's what I thought.
> >
> > We typically have the logging set to show actions.
>  Which takes up a  
> > lot of disk space, but is very helpful in proving
> that there was "user  
> > error" in some situations.  I'm considering just
> shutting down logging  
> > right now.  I just know that if I do i'm going to
> get a call the next  
> > day asking to investigate a problem that a user
> experienced.
> >
> > /John
> >
> > Robert Shubert wrote:
> >
> >> I agree that those files are something to
> consider. You might want to
> >> think about making a simple BAT that would
> zip/encrypt/password the
> >> files each night. They would then be available to
> you if you wanted.  
> >> The
> >> suggestion of post processing, perhaps with a
> regex command is also
> >> valid.
> >> An argument might be made that LogLevel=1 should
> not contain  
> >> post/search
> >> arguments. I guess the log might still be useful
> in the long run for
> >> basic access/error searching.
> >>
> >> One thing that I am asking for in the next major
> release is an
> >> ERRORSONLY logging class. At first I was thinking
> this for the
> >> witangoevents.log file, but I can also see it
> useful in the regular  
> >> log.
> >> This wouldn't necessarily solve the problem you
> brought up, but if the
> >> log contained only error data, it would be much
> smaller and more  
> >> useful
> >> with the occasional time you needed such data.
> >>
> >> Aside from my free-thinking, there are no current
> mechanisms with  
> >> which
> >> to deal with your problem. I would assign the log
> folder to a  
> >> non-shared
> >> partition of the server if you can, or off the
> server on a machine  
> >> with
> >> more security, and less public access.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: John McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April  
> >> 28, 2004 1:59 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Witango-Talk: logging and security
> >>
> >> Many times we leave Witango logging turned on so
> we can debug a  
> >> problem after it's been reported by a user.  When
> that site is one  
> >> that does e-commerce, there is a problem.  The
> Witango log contains  
> >> all the post arguments passed in and variable
> changes etc... that  
> >> data could be sensitive, and not something we
> want laying around.
> >>
> >> Is there any way to control the witango logging
> system to not print  
> >> certain post args, and not show the value of
> certain variables when  
> >> they
> >>
> >> change?
> >>
> >> Otherwise the only thing i can think of is to run
> a program that  
> >> processes the logfile after it has been rolled to
> stirp out any  
> >> patterns
> >>
> >> that we don't want in the logfile.
> >>
> >> /John
> >>
> >>
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