I didn't see webalizer (http://www.webalizer.org/) on the list.  I use it 
now on linux.  It was really easy to set up using webmin, and I now 
provide statistics and log analysis to all my clients.  It supports 
Common Log Format, so it analyses web, ftp, and squid proxy logs.  
Wouldn't it be great if there was a Common Log Format option for 
Witango.Log?

I had used Summary for years because it could analyse AppleShare IP web 
logs.  I always found the configuration squirrely. 

>Thanks John!  That's the one I thought looked best for us...good to have
>some feedback on it.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 1:39 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Server Statistics
>> 
>> 
>> Jamileh & Others,
>> 
>> Up until very recently our shop used web trends.  and before that, 
>> funnel web.
>> 
>> In the last month we evaluated and installed Urchin.  It's in 
>> the list 
>> below, but I just wanted to put a personal stamp of approval on the 
>> product.  It's the best stats package I've ever worked with.
>> 
>> If anybody wants more information about it feel free to 
>> contact me directly.
>> 
>> Urchin reminds me of Witango.  It's made by a small company 
>> and seems to 
>> blow away the competition and is worth every penny we paid for it.
>> 
>> /John
>> 
>> Wilcox, Jamileh (HSC) wrote:
>> 
>> > I asked about webstats programs a while back & received several
>> > suggestions, which got me off to a good start.  I've had to 
>> compile a 
>> > comparison list for mgt here, so I thought maybe someone else could 
>> > use it.  Some of my notes are pretty sketchy (of course, I 
>> postponed 
>> > the research until the last minute ;) and may not be much help, but 
>> > you can get a general idea.  I'm sure I didn't list 'em 
>> all, either. 
>> >
>> > It's a tab-delimited Excel export.
>> >
>> > <<SoftwareComparisons.txt>>
>> >
>> >-------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>> >-
>> >
>> >Product     Company Web     Requirements    Webserver 
>> requirements Webpage requirements    Features        Method  
>> Support      Price   Other   Recommended by
>> >Analog 5.32         http://www.analog.cx/   Any OS  Any 
>> webserver    none    Multiple languages; very fast; highly 
>> configurable; reads all standard formats and allows custom 
>> formats; very scalable       Log file analysis       Mail 
>> List; online userguides and tutorials; third party vendors   
>> Freeware     Many helper applications        Jason Schulz 
>> [witango list]:   For others analog is useful.
>> >AWstats     Laurent Destailleur     
>> http://awstats.sourceforge.net/      Any OS  "Perl, any 
>> webserver"   none    "Web, FTP and mailserver logs.  Robots 
>> detected."   Log file analysis       Online documentation    
>> freeware     Helper apps available   
>> >ClickTracks ClickTracks     http://www.clicktracks.com/     
>> Win98+       any     depends on product      "Page reports, 
>> link reports, path reports, visitor info by defined group for 
>> each page; search engine reports including keyword vs engine; 
>> primarily geared to pay-per-click sites; visitor behavior; 
>> import/export capable; visitor labeling for grouping & 
>> reporting; reports shown on website page.  visitor behavior 
>> analysis geared towards marketing/advertising."      "5 
>> products - 2 log file analyzers, 3 javascript embedded."     
>> online & email during business hours; telephone for certain 
>> packages.    $495-3000+; online $49-$239+/month              
>> >FreeStats   Mega Web Services Inc   http://freestats.com/   
>> None None    Add scripts to webpages.        "Traffic 
>> reports, marketing reports (search engines, referrers, 
>> keywords, etc.), path reports, visitor profile reports.  
>> Higher levels increase features, reports, history."  Page 
>> embedding using javascripts; online service  online during 
>> business hours       free w/banner ads; bannerless 
>> $2.99-$8.99/month    Appears to be same as SiteTracker       
>> >HBX OnDemand Web Analysis (aka HitBox)      WebSideStory    
>> http://www.hbxondemand.com   None    none    unknown - not 
>> on website   "website navigation analysis, ecommerce 
>> analysis, campaign analysis, content analysis, visitor 
>> analysis - custom visitor grouping; custom reports into 
>> Excel; executive KPI dashboard; overlay stats/reports onto 
>> website pages.  additional upgrades/modules available."      
>> online       unknown - not on website        unknown - not 
>> on website           
>> >HitCounter  Lorentz Consulting Group        
>> http://hitcounter.leveltendesign.com/        ?       Perl or PHP     
>> Add logo/program to webpages "Traffic summary, page 
>> comparisons, path reports, referrer reports, historical 
>> reports, browser reports."   Page embedding using Perl or 
>> PHP  user forum      Free but logo on pages          
>> >LiveStats XSP       DeepMetrix      
>> http://www.deepmetrix.com/livestats/xsp/     Windows2000+; 
>> MSDE included or use with MSSQL.     "Any OS, any 
>> webserver."  none    "Multiple servers; reimport for 
>> reprocessing previous log files; full search; SOAP interface; 
>> customize reports available; command line interface; live 
>> statistics, page reports, visitor reports, referrals, 
>> demographics; custom reporting; graphs, trending, etc.; 
>> export & email reports; search engine results; "     Log 
>> file analysis        Automated website setup; automated account 
>> creation for report viewing; automated db maintenance; 12 
>> month support plan included. 30 day full function demo.      
>> "$1,095 "            "Tom Ferguson [witango list] ""I've 
>> used a product called Live Stats from a Canadian company 
>> named Media House for years.  It is rock solid, accurate, and 
>> their tech support is superb."""
>> >LiveStats.NET v7    MediaHouse Software / DeepMetrix        
>> http://www.deepmetrix.com/livestats/net/     "SQL backend 
>> (MSDE included or separate full SQL server), Win2000/XP/2003"        
>> "any OS, any webserver, anywhere; can collect statistics from 
>> remote servers"      Use provided installers or manually add 
>> scripts to webpages. "Visitor tracking (even thru 
>> caches/proxies/firewalls/etc.; not IP dependent;excludes 
>> spiders); live (not from log) stats;  interactive graphic 
>> reports including geographic maps, comparisons, trending & 
>> forecasting, history, search engine usage, site paths, 
>> visitor demographics, browser/screen resolution info, flash, 
>> etc.; customizable reports; multiple accounts and/or multiple 
>> servers; web-based reports accessible via internet; schedule 
>> or demand email reports; exportable reports; scalable to very 
>> high end"    Page embedding (StatScript) using javascripts   
>> "Automatic installation (database engine, .NET platform, 
>> services, permissions, webapp, configuration); Online help; 
>> 12 months: free email, 6 phone, free upgrades/updates; 
>> flexible licensing; 30 day full function demo"       $895.00 
>>      Also have hosted service available ranging from 
>> $49-$499 per month up to 10million page views.       
>> >SiteTracker SiteTracker     http://sitetracker.com/ Any OS  
>> any  Add scripts to webpages.        "Traffic reports, 
>> visitor profiles, path reports, marketing reports"   Page 
>> embedding using javascripts; online service  online during 
>> business hours       $2.99-$8.99/month       Appears to be 
>> same as FreeStats    
>> >StatCounter StatCounter     http://www.statcounter.com/     
>> Any OS       any     Add scripts to webpages.        Visitor 
>> tracking; traffic reports; path reports; search engine 
>> reports; software/demographic reports; charts.       Page 
>> embedding using javascripts; online service  online  Free up 
>> to 250K pageloads/month      advertising on website when 
>> reviewing stats      
>> >Summary 2.0 Summary.Net     http://www.summary.net/ 
>> "Windows, Macintosh including OSX, Linux x86, FreeBSD, and 
>> Sun SPARC"   Most    none    "Save reports as spreadsheets; 
>> handles multiple log files, multiple remote locations; 
>> incremental processing; email reports; web-published reports; 
>> interactive reports; referring domains reports; search engine 
>> reports; customizable report layouts; broken links reports; 
>> server bandwidth reports; graphic hijacking reports; reads 
>> some compressed logs; filters; recognizes most common 
>> formats, allows customizable log formats"    Log file 
>> analysis     30 day full function demo; online user manuals 
>> & updates; user mail list; email support     $249    "$59 
>> ""personal"" version"        Michael Dittbrenner [witango list] 
>> >Traffic Report 1.2.1        Seacloak Software       
>> http://www.seacloak.com/     "MacOS 7.0 thru OSX 10.x, 68040 
>> or PowerPC processor, 5 MB or more of RAM"   "works on 
>> ""many of the most popular log formats, from Netscape to 
>> Apache, whether produced on Unix, NT or Mac servers"""       
>> none Multiple log files allowed; internal vs external 
>> referrers; report by website; DNS lookups; filters; custom 
>> categories; customize report look; schedule reports  Log 
>> file analysis        30 day full function demo; online user guide; 
>> email & phone assistance for registered users        $149.95         
>> $49.95 Lite version also available   "Wayne Irvine [witango 
>> list] ""I use Traffic Report. It can be scheduled to generate 
>> reports periodically from log in HTML format."""
>> >Urchin 5    Urchin Software http://www.urchin.com/  
>> "Windows, Mac OSX, Unix"     any     Add scripts to 
>> webpages.    "Visitor & session reports, visitor loyalty; 
>> ecommerce reports, revenue source reports; drilldown details; 
>> search temrs, robots/spiders reports; client parameters; 
>> charts & graphs, export reports, date ranges, trending; page 
>> & path reports; referral & search engine reports; setup 
>> wizard.  assistance w/page scripts.  proprietary db included. 
>>  Extra modules (campaign, marketing, etc.) and >100 site 
>> upgrades available." Log file analysis & page embedding 
>> using javascripts    email; support plans & hourly support 
>> available    $895 base module up to 100 sites                
>> >WebCEO      Radiocom        
>> http://www.webceo.com/?> source=SitePointNewsletter2 
>> "Windows98+, WinNT with MDAC 
>> added"       none    Add scripts to webpages.        Site 
>> promotion/search engine; maintenance; analysis; site 
>> monitoring.  Traffic analysis & website monitoring online.   
>> Page embedding using javascripts; online service     email   
>> $19-$495 + monthly           
>> >WebStat     WebStat http://www.webstat.com/ Any OS  any     
>> Add scripts to webpages.     "Free version up to 20K 
>> hits/month: reports download to excel or pdf but include 
>> advertising; summary report, visited pgs, monthly trends, 
>> browser & OS reports, search engine reports.  paid version up 
>> to 600K/month: extra features, extra reports."       Page 
>> embedding using javascripts; online service  email   $9.95 - 
>> $600/month based on pageview count           
>> >WebTrends   NetIQ   
>> http://www.netiq.com/webtrends/default.asp>  ?       ?       
>> Add scripts to webpages.     "Search 
>> engine results, marketing campaign results, navigation 
>> analysis, traffic reporting, commerce reporting; drilldown to 
>> detail; more features in higher level products"      Page 
>> embedding using javascripts  documentation & knowledgebase; 
>> paid support plans available $495-$9995 or online service 
>> $35-$1000/month              "Jason Schulz [witango list]:  
>> reports everything but takes pricing to a new level, so we 
>> only use it for a couple of sites. For others analog is useful."
>> >  
>> >
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