Thanks for all the comments guys. I was thinking along the lines of Scott. I
was wondering if there was a way to check to see if cookies were enabled. I
was just going to let them know and not let them continue until cookies were
invoked.

How would this affect search engine spiders? Maybe I need to let them
continue (and just notify them that the shopping cart will not retain their
selections) or the spiders will not get their work done. Any comments?

I like the idea of providing instructions for them.

Now I need to figure out how to check for cookies. Thanks Ben for the link.

Thanks

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: John McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Cookies


Listen to Scott on this one.  If you can educate just one user that 
turning session cookies back on isn't going to blow up their computer or 
get their credit card stolen then our society becomes one step closer to 
nirvana.

If you were an auto dealer and a customer brought their car in and said 
they didn't "like to have the battery plugged in", but wanted to know 
why they couldn't start their car,  would you install a hand crank for 
them to start their car?

I know... It's a weak analogy...   :)

/John

Scott Cadillac wrote:

>Hi Steve,
>
>If you recall, the point and the conclusion on that long discussion was
"security" - if a user 
>has session-cookies disabled, then so be it. Just display a message telling
them to turn it 
>back on before allowing them to proceed (provide instructions). 
>
>This is the most secure way to handle session management for any web
platform (SSL is a 
>different matter).
>
>The issue is about security - why compromise security for user convenience.
Giving them 
>convenience now just delays more serious problems until a later date.
>
>----
>Yes, additional user variables may be assigned on the Server because of
missing session-
>cookies. Unfortunately, it is one down-side to pay for better security for
your visitors.
>
>-----
>As for testing for cookies, writing a bit of code for this is not difficult
- but keep in mind 
>there is a different between "session" cookies and regular cookies, and
that most every modern 
>browser has settings for both kinds (and that some browsers use different
terminology to 
>describe these two kinds of cookies).
>
>Hope this helps. Cheers....
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Fogelson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Witango User Group (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:40:48 -0500
>Subject: Witango-Talk: Cookies
>
>  
>
>>I have built my shopping cart application without <@userreference> tag
>>at
>>the end of each url. It seemed after all the discussion about a year
>>ago
>>that this was the way to go. Especially with search engine spiders and
>>hijacked sessions.
>>
>>I talked to one of our online customers today and discovered that he
>>was
>>being assigned a new session id every time he added an item to his
>>cart.
>>
>>I'm trying to figure out a strategy for handling customers that have
>>disabled cookies, besides requiring them to sign in when entering the
>>site.
>>
>>Is there a way to check to see if they have cookies disabled?
>>
>>Any ideas on how to handle customers that have disabled cookies?
>>
>>I am also concerned about all the user variables being created for this
>>type
>>of customer. Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>>Steve Fogelson
>>Internet Commerce Solutions
>>
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