That's how it was set up. Everyone has to send authentication to send out email. Or they're denied.





By the way, if your mail server forces authentication for everybody that tires to send mail through it, a solution that I've used in the past has been to is an intermediary mail server (typically on the same machine) that accepts connection from only localhost, that is setup to relay all it's mail to the real mail server, and that intermediate mail server has the authentication information to make the connection to the "real" mail server.

If the real mail server and the web server are already on the same
machine perhaps you could accomplish this by running another smtp server
for just witango to talk to on a different port (8025).

I had to do something very similar to this when we installed an Intranet
appliation for a client at their location running on witango, and the
mail actions needed to send mail though the company mail server (which
is still hosted by us) We weren't about to trust any machines outside of
our own subnet, so instead we configured the witango box to SMTP through
itself, and that IIS SMTP server was setup to send all it's mail through
our server by authenticating.

/John

Rick Sanders wrote:

    Hi Roland,
    Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, it's a little more
    complicated than that.
    The people relaying off the server, are using the email address of
    the domain hosted on the server.
    So, the spammers are using [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and it's going through without
    authentication because 127.0.0.1 is in the privileged IP range.
    Of course, turning off the 127.0.0.1 stops un-authorized relaying,
    but also stops the Tango server from sending auto email. Unless
    the Tango server can send a username & password for authentication.
    We've blocked a huge list of IP's, but they're spoofing IP's off
    other Comcast & AT&T DSL customers.
    Fun, fun, fun!

    Hold on. Something’s amiss in your mail server setup.

    IF you have relay enabled from 127.0.0.1 AND you have a mail
    server on the same machine AND you have authentication turned on
    for outside IP addresses, the mail server should still be
    requiring authentication from outside people trying to use you as
    an open relay.

    I have that setup (webstar) and can see the steady stream of
    attempted relays being blocked.

    You can turn authentication off for your internal and trusted
    networks, including 127.0.0.1 and the IP address of your witango
    machine
    Authentication required for everyone else
    Use your firewall/router not not let in IP spoofers using 127. Or
    your server’s IP address

    Then, when the spammer is sending messages trying to exploit the
    open relay, the mail server will reject because the IP address is
    the originating machine or server, not your own. If they are
    trying to spoof your Ip address, the mail won’t get in.

    Check your detailed smtp log and you’ll see where your hole is.



    On 11/1/04 10:34 AM, "Rick Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        I have a client who's having email relay problems.

        Basically, people are relaying off his email server. He's
        turned off relay for local sender addresses, and enabled SMTP
        authentication.

        However, he's had to let his local machine IP 127.0.0.1 for
        access to the mail server, because WiTango needs to send
        automatic email. However, because of this, anyone can still
        relay mail off the server.

        The question:

        Is it possible for the WiTango server to send a username &
        password to the mail server for outbound authentication? I
        know that WiTango can use a specific email address, but can it
        send a Username & password for authentication?

        The server is version 2000 with SP2.

        Thanks in advance,

        Rick Sanders



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