My point is that one should endeavor to find an object that is legally licensed, pay for it and use it. I use www.componentsource.com to find these, they are reliable and have a comprehensive list of vendors. Pick one, try it out and contact the vendor if you are not sure that they are legit.
Then these problems simply vanish. I am pretty certain that WebPic is licensed and therefore recommended it. It takes all of about 30 minutes to install, create a tcf wrapper and implement. For compression and resizing, I have done side-by-side comparisons with photoshop output and they are pretty much identical. The only issue I have found is their garbage collection is not too great. There isn't any easy way to release the memory taken in the creation of an object so to avoid this issue, I create the object in application scope and just use it as required. I have used this to generate 6 resized and compressed images from a library of over 85,000 images in one routine (we changed our minds about image sizes...). No problem, took a while to process them all, but it was great and I am very satisfied. To see examples of the output: www.footballfanatics.com Every product image started at 500 x 500 and each was resized (or compressed) to: 500 x 500 250 x 250 160 x 160 150 x 150 90 x 90 60 x 60 The quality is exceptional. p. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JPEG Patent Issue what if the program you used was open sourced Peter and the developers weren't paying any royalties? I think what Robert is using is open sourced or atleast the jpg libraries he's using are. still kinda messed up that they would go after people using the software and not the developers themselves but its not so different from how some entertainment companies were going after individuals downloading mp3s illegaly as well as goign after the people making software to allow it to happen. On 7/20/05, Peter Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, it is my understanding that by using the software that is provided by > a third party vendor, you are not liable for the fees associated with > generating images using this software. > > For example, by using Photoshop to make JPEG files, I am abstracted from the > requirement of paying the licensing fee, I simply pay my fee to Adobe. > > If I use WebPic, I am not required to pay a fee for any JPEG that I create > using this software only for the software. I am an end consumer of this > software, not a vendor of it and therefore not liable. If I were to > distribute a software product that uses WebPic at its core, I would then be > liable to pay them a licensing fee. > > If they are not licensed to use JPEG files, that could cause issues I would > imagine but not directly to me. > > Your thoughts? > > p. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JPEG Patent Issue > > It is not someone elses problem. I have the responsibility to make > sure the tools I use are licensed. And if I am on the radar, I am > sure these other tools will be, sooner or later. If you think that I > wrote my own JPEG compression algorithm, then thanks for the > compliment. You think I am a better programmer than I am! > > http://news.com.com/Do+you+own+everything+in+your+software+portfolio/ > 2010-1071_3-5794276.html?part=rss&tag=5794276&subj=news > > -- > > Robert Garcia > President - BigHead Technology > VP Application Development - eventpix.com > 13653 West Park Dr > Magalia, Ca 95954 > ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ > > On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Peter Dobbs wrote: > > > Why don't you use a simple COM object that handles this for you and > > absolve > > yourself of the problem altogether? > > > > I use one called WebPic. http://www.softuarium.com/item.php?id=40 > > > > But there are TONS out there. See: www.componentsource.com > > > > Let the licensing issue be someone else's problem. > > > > p. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alan Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:01 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: JPEG Patent Issue > > > > if it's any help, if you were forced to say "all photos must be png > > format", an upside to using PNG is that it is lossless compression, > > whereas jpg is lossy. > > > > You might be able to get away with saying "to preserve image quality, > > please use PNG compression" or soemthing like that > > > > hope that helps in some small way, bummer to hear abotu your plight > > > > On 7/20/05, Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I am doing the research, and looking carefully at the Unisys/gif > >> issue for education. > >> > >> I can use PNG in some of my apps, and I love the PNG format, for the > >> most part, but I can't get around I have to use JPEGs to show > >> photographer's images online. PNG just doesn't have complete support > >> yet, and I also would have to investigate compression methods, and > >> which were supported on which browsers. > >> > >> We are in the process of switching to JPEG2000 for transport, but I > >> better make sure that won't violate anything. > >> > >> What does IANAL stand for? I am not a lawyer? Haven't seen that one. > >> > >> It is nice to be noticed, but not by the IRS, or some Patent lawyer! > >> > >> I always thought JPEG was royalty free, till seeing some news on the > >> web about forgent this year. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Robert Garcia > >> President - BigHead Technology > >> VP Application Development - eventpix.com > >> 13653 West Park Dr > >> Magalia, Ca 95954 > >> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ > >> > >> On Jul 20, 2005, at 6:57 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Wow, that sux Robert, > >>> > >>> I would try to find a support group somewhere that is dealing with > >>> this, at > >>> least for advice. There must be one somewhere. > >>> > >>> I assume you've tried > >>> > >>> IANAL, but if it were me, I'd investigate switching wholesale to > >>> some other > >>> format like PNG. > >>> > >>> On the bright side, I guess you can say this is a measure of > >>> success, simply > >>> because you got noticed. > >>> > >>> Hope things work out. > >>> > >>> ~ Scott Cadillac > >>> ~ 403-254-5002 > >>> ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> ~ Custom Software for Business > >>> http://custom.softwarefor.net > >>> > >>> ~ The XML-Extranet Partnership > >>> ~ P.O. Box 69006 > >>> RPO Bridlewood SW > >>> Calgary, Alberta > >>> Canada T2Y 4T9 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:09 AM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Witango-Talk: JPEG Patent Issue > >>>> > >>>> I have been sent letters, and have been phoned about software > >>>> that I > >>>> have written that compresses images using JPEG format. They want > >>>> percentages of revenue from the companies using the software. > >>>> > >>>> Some background info: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.shaftek.org/standardsblog/2005/04/27/the-never-endi > >>>> > >>>> > >>> ng-jpeg- > >>> > >>> > >>>> patent-saga/ > >>>> > >>>> http://www.forgent.com/ > >>>> > >>>> The company contacting me is Inavisis. > >>>> > >>>> I heard about Sony and Adobe buckling and paying the license, > >>>> and MS > >>>> and Apple fighting. I was wondering if anyone has done more > >>>> research > >>>> on this kind of thing, like the Unisys GIF issues before. > >>>> > >>>> I know, if the JPEG patent is valid, I am violating it by using > >>>> open > >>>> source JPEG libraries to compress images, like ImageMagick. But > >>>> if I > >>>> use calls to the host operating system, or an API like Quicktime, > >>>> would I still be violating the patent? > >>>> > >>>> It has always been my understanding, if a library like Quicktime, > >>>> allows me to save to a particular format, I am in compliance, cuz > >>>> Quicktime has the responsibility of being in compliance with > >>>> licenses. > >>>> > >>>> If anyone has any info, I think this is a good topic of discussion, > >>>> cuz if I got on their radar, others will too. And then I > >>>> guess I will > >>>> have to write my own utilities for the webservers to manipulate > >>>> images, using quicktime. My desktop software too. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Robert Garcia > >>>> President - BigHead Technology > >>>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com > >>>> 13653 West Park Dr > >>>> Magalia, Ca 95954 > >>>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Robert Garcia > >>>> President - BigHead Technology > >>>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com > >>>> 13653 West Park Dr > >>>> Magalia, Ca 95954 > >>>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>> __________ > >>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ____________________________________________________________________ > >>> __ > >>> __ > >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ > >> ___ > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > > ________________________________________________________________________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf > ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
