I don't know the CORRECT usage of !CST, that looks like it may be an example of how witango is SUPPOSED to use it.

The bug would be when you see it on normal datatypes.

--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
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On Oct 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Fogelson, Steve wrote:

Hi,

I checked some of my Windows tafs for Witango 5.5 and found a few listed
below. Is it correct in assigning this DataType for an "as" variable?

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
Internet Commerce Solutions

<Column DataType="!CST" ColumnType="0">
  <TableName />
  <ColumnName><![CDATA["Products.P_Oversize as FType"]]></ColumnName>
</Column>
<Column DataType="!CST" ColumnType="0">
  <TableName />
  <ColumnName><![CDATA["Products.P_ID as FID"]]></ColumnName>
</Column>

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Ternstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OS X.4 - Danger in correcting... (solved)

Hello All,

i have also seen the !CST in my tafs for a while now (Win 5.5 / 5.08).

When I investigated the problem I found that all !CST in my application
files were from tables and fields that were newly introduced in the
database, probably added in the database while writing the taf and then refreshed the table structure to see the changes (and directly dragging
them
in actions). The problem could also be due to the fact I was using the
same
data source name for two versions of the same application. The two
versions
had slight changes in the database - the difference between them were
indicated by !CST in the tafs for the new version.

I also found that witango editor might keep table field names in the
taf-file although they are not visible in the editor or exist in the
database.

Im not sure how it works in other environments, but with MS SQL witango studio will show the dbo prefix in front of table names in the "details"

column of database actions. Sometimes it would remove the dbo prefix,
just
showing the table name(s) used in the query. This behavior was to me
quite
random, before I found out that it was related to the !CST problem. Yes
-
when you had !CST errors in your query it would remove the dbo prefix in
the
details column.

The concusion is that it seems to be some kind of problem with caching
of
the table structure in witango studio. I really dont care. The most
important thing is that i found a way to solve it:

The solution is to create a new datasource for the database you are
working
with and use "set data source" on all the queries in your project,
pointing
to the new datasource. This corrects all !CST errors in your tafs,
including
other related problems/errors. It might take a while, but it sure beats
using a text editor and manually replacing them.

Peter




----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OS X.4 - Danger in correcting...



After editing the TAFs / TCFs (with a text editor, BBEdit), I found

that

some tafs now had a "corrupted structure" as reported by the  Witango
server. If I just created a new TAF and dragged over the actions from

the

old one, the TAFs ran correctly. But when I examined  the XML for the
re-created TAF, our friend "!CST" had reappeared  (more or less

randomly,

as far as I could tell - that is not all  datatypes were incorrectly
changed). If I attempted to change this  back via the text editor, it
rendered the files once again as  corrupted structure.

If, on the other hand, I re-created the problematical update/insert



actions, the problem was solved (TAF is not corrupted, correct

datatypes

reported in Data Dictionary)

NOT looking forward to making tons of changes. Grateful that I put

all my

files under Subversion control just before starting the  changes via

text

editor!

On Oct 20, 2005, at 7:51 AM, Dale Graham wrote:


I checked my files for the !CST characters and sure enough, I DID

find

them throughout recently edited TAFs and TCFs. We haven't seen much



instability in our production instance that could be  related to

inserts

and updates, but perhaps this was because we are  not using the

Witango

server, but rather the Witango servlet.

I have been spending my morning replacing the !CST characters but
brooding abt the fact that each time I edit or add a new search/
insert/update I might be adding something to edit later...

So, no, there's no database "protective" effect from using Oracle

and or

JDBC connectors. Same issue.

On Oct 20, 2005, at 6:43 AM, Robert Garcia wrote:



I have seen it with primebase, and MSSQL 2000, and MYSQL.

--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Oct 20, 2005, at 3:08 AM, Dale Graham wrote:




We're using Tiger 10.4.2 and Oracle via JDBC, and have never
experienced insert or update action corruptions. Could this be
database and/or DB connector related?

We do occasionally see a tcf object's scope get "lost" shortly

after

being added to a TAF, but after it gets changed once (or  twice)

back,

it finally "sticks" and we no longer have an issue  with it.

On Oct 19, 2005, at 6:22 PM, Bill Conlon wrote:





Thx much.  I found a used dual G4 1.25 GHz for the price of a

mini,

so I'll probably stick with X.3.9.

BTW, I've never had the corruption issue while running X.2.8.

bill
On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, at 03:00 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:






I do, and there are others, like Mark Weiss and Roland.

There is a serious bug that I don't think is JUST 10.4, but

seems to

show up more in 10.4. Your insert and update actions  can get
corrupted. It is a major pain, it has been reported to  Witango
months ago. It has not been acknowledged, and none of  (AFAIK)

have

heard from witango on this.

See previous posts for more details on the bug.

--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Oct 19, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Bill Conlon wrote:







I think I'm ready to migrate from my circa 1998 G3 desktop.

Can't

remember which feline is the current version, but does  anyone

have

experience running the Dev Studio on X.4?

thx

bill



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