I second – or third ?? – this thread. I made the switch in ’99, mostly because of the cheap AMD hardware you could back then (relative to intel & apple) made it worth while. That was, of course T2K, and I’ve moved up 2 platforms (from single Athlon to Dual Athlon MP and now to dual/dual opteron) and likewise moved from T2K to 5.0 to 5.5. Every combination has been able to support my needs and it gets better everyday. The latest builds can process millions of requests without any major problems.

 

I also understand that Apple has a lot to do with the instability of the software running on their OS. As most of the other people have said, I too am an apple fan. My first computer was an apple ][. I still have a 128k mac, and I have a current powerbook. But it was no secret that apple is not a server hardware or software platform. Not in the 80’s, not in the 90’s and that’s just changing now. Personally, I believe that 10.4 is the first OS to make Macs a viable server. With the coming of intel CPUs, I would wait out that change before making any assessment. But, as the case is, my money is already spent, and I gotta say that a well built Xeon/Opteron/Windows2003/5.5 server leaves you wanting very little.

 

Robert

 


From: John Muldoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: OS X witangod dies, way to auto-restart?

 

Robert,

 

Couldn't agree with you more. I moved everything from Mac to Windows. I also kicked and screamed the whole way. But I gotta tell you, the difference in stability and upward extensibility is huge. And like it or not, almost everything is built around Windows, even if it isn't Windows itself.

 


From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OS X witangod dies, way to auto-restart?

It was a very difficult thing for me to go to windows. I went kicking and screaming. I went from Tango2000 for the mac, to Witango 5 for windows. But after all this time, it was definitely the best decision.

 

And more recently, because of all the bandwidth I use at my colocation center, I had the opportunity to get several XServe G5 DP machines to use free, or for almost nothing. It was a sponsorship kind of thing. I would then have to write up, and give testimonials and such. So did a bunch of testing on windows and mac. I still chose windows, and then proceeded to upgrade all of my windows hardware for my cost. And I would have LOVED to have gone to the XSERVEs. Cuz I think they are cool, and I love the mac.

 

Also, in Witango 5.5, they completely rewrote the code that handles db connections and such. And in 5.0, this was the area that caused any instabilities I saw in 5.0. I posted a very long message about my testing with v5.5, under load, regarding this major change.

 

I do understand your frustration, but I think this was an evolutionary change, and not a bug fix. I upgraded 4 machines and bought 2 more licenses. It was well worth it. My sites don't go down, although I have seen a cache issue, that I am still trying to reproduce.

 

Unfortunately, I am slowly moving off witango, for many reasons, most previously posted. It will take me most of 2006 to complete the move, though. Until then, 5.5.009 on windows is a VERY stable platform. But don't get me started on the dev studio, and documentation for things like java beans.

 

For a server platform, with every experience I have had, with many pieces of software, linux or windows is always a better choice than os x. I would move completely to linux, but I would have to do more testing with witango for linux. But is it even done for 5.5? As recently as a few weeks ago, it listed licenses for linux as PRESALE. What is the status on that? Anyone know?

 

Just a footnote, one other big reason for witango on windows, vs mac or linux, is extendability. There are by far more methods to connect to other services, like payflowpro, and other stuff like that through windows.

 

-- 

 

Robert Garcia

President - BigHead Technology

VP Application Development - eventpix.com

13653 West Park Dr

Magalia, Ca 95954

ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040

 

On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Andrew Derry wrote:



On a side note, to Robert - I would have gone windows all the way in the

first place if it'd been up to me. It's the people that own and maintain

(the non-technical side of) the server are Mac all the way so wouldn't have

any of that.  ;)

 

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