On Aug 31, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

Hi Roland,

they won't/can't show me an example of a query file, but will share
the WSDL. I don't know how to build a static query file from this,
though

Have you navigated to the endpoint WSDL service address in a browser yet? Often many services will have help documentation and samples automatically generated that you can view online as part of the SOAP platform.

Example, try: http://terraservice.net/TerraService.asmx then click on one of the functions (operations), to get something like this:

http://terraservice.net/TerraService.asmx?op=GetPlaceList

As well, there are many WSDL converter tools that translate the WSDL data into send and receive xml samples for you. http:// www.xmlspy.com/ is an XML editor that has such a utility built in.

Hope that helps.

Scott Cadillac,
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://scott.cadillac.bz


-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: choicepoint SOAP

cautionary advice taken to heart.

they won't/can't show me an example of a query file, but will share
the WSDL. I don't know how to build a static query file from this,
though

There was reference to a java client, so I'm inquiring about that.


On Aug 31, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:

I agree, most of the time its static, I do have one method, where
the url, regularly changes. My main point was, this is not one of
witango's strengths. And my RB example, shows a complete, 3 lines
of code approach.

So I am sure you will find what works best for you, but I
have been
bitten many times, starting down a solution with witango, that
involved soap or xml, that I had to completely abandon, due to
limitations, or bugs, so beware.

--

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
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On Aug 31, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

Hi Roland,

Technically speaking, what Robert said is true, but speaking from
experience, I find this rarely to be the case.

If the SOAP service you're calling is for a commercial vendor,
then I would find it highly unlikely that the WSDL will change
very often - and when it does, it's more like they'll be
adding to
the function list rather than changing the parameter scope of an
existing function.

After eating the SOAP dog food for several years, you
learn not to
make even subtle changes to published specs - because typically
many of your service consumers are not using automated tools with
WSDL, but are actually running a custom posts.

Yes, I recommend using a development tool that supports SOAP
interfacing, i.e., Visual Studio. But if the entry is too steep,
then custom posting with XML is an option.

Take it for what it's worth. Hope this helps.

Scott Cadillac,
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://scott.cadillac.bz





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