You're a prince (and a genius - as usual)! Done! that did the trick. This allows me to set a user variable that I can use in the rest of my application to show whether or not Javascript is supported, independent of browser capability.

On May 11, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

Hi Dale,

Unfortunately there is no simple answer to that question. It can depend on your style of application, what the purpose of the detection is and so on...

But basically, you need a preceding webpage that does the detection for you,
then passes the results back to the server.

You could have a User scope variable that says ScriptingChecked (true or false), if empty, redirect the user to your detection webpage. The detection webpage automatically checks for scripting and redirects them back with an
extra argument or something. Something like

<script>
location.href = 'some.taf?scripting=true';
</script>
<noscript>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" CONTENT="1; URL=some.taf?scripting=false">
</noscript>

If argument "scripting" is true, then assign ScriptingChecked to true, else if JavaScript is disabled, the noscript tag will run and the meta tag will
give your argument a false value (if META redirects are not disabled).

You could also marry the above with some Ajax or IFRAME stuff to prevent
page reloading.


Try <@HTTPATTRIBUTE NAME="USER_AGENT">

That can give you the name of the browser (if the browser is being honest),
but doesn't tell you anything with regards to scripting being enabled.

Hope that helps.

Scott,


-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Javascript problem - detecting browsers with JS
turned off

Heh heh, now that you've explained where I've gone wrong, what
approach *should* I be taking? That is, I don't know how to put the
cart after the horse....

On May 11, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

Hi Dale, hopefully I've understood your question, so...

Witango is a server-side language, meaning it only executes on the
server.

HTML and JavaScript are client-side languages, meaning at the
server level
(when Witango is executing) your HTML and JavaScript is meaningless
text
(ignored by Witango) and is not executed by the browser until
"after" your
Witango code has finished executing and sent the results to the
browser
(client), then your HTML and JavaScript will be executed.

You're putting the cart (JavaScript) before the horse (Witango).

Hope this helps.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:13 AM
To: Witango-Talk list
Subject: Witango-Talk: Javascript problem - detecting browsers
with JS
turned off

I decided it was best to use something like object detection because
JS can be disabled even in JS-capable browsers and I was having
display issues if JS was turned off... so I wanted to set something
up to work either way.

BUT I am running into really huge issues implementing this, because things seem to be working "not as advertised" in both Firefox and in
Safari (I haven't even begun to attempt IE!)

There are two different problems here.

1] This does a test for javascript (inside a script tag), and if it
works, writes out a variable

<pre>

<script language="javascript">
        if document.write {
                document.write("<@assign name=request$donext
value=firstreview>");
        }
</script>

</pre>

However if javascript is turned OFF in either Firefox or Safari, it
still creates (writes out) the variable!! Huh?


2]

<pre>

<noscript><@assign name="request$donext" value=""></noscript>

</pre>

And this is supposed to null out the "donext" variable ONLY if
javascript is not present/disabled. But the variable is nulled when
JS is on OR off!  What's going on here?
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