I use Myself for huge databases and MS ACCESS for quick and dirty projects. 
Never have had problems with Witango.

But, also I change to PHP, the reason is: here I have more add ons and it work 
on big projects. And at least: It is for free.
For non-programmers PHP sucks, but for professional programmers, PHP work fine. 
Same as Witango. If You don't know how a database work, so you have problems 
using Witango. On beginning with TANGO on MacOS, it was fine to have a Tool 
what have make for you all the html-Code what you have needed. But for today, I 
miss XML-Codes, I miss add. functions (like a simple calendar/Dating function; 
like a BBS; like a simple fotogalery [postings, readings]; I miss AJAX; JAVA 
compilations (for free) a.s.o).

In my eyes, TANGO was all-time the first choice (in the past) for Web-Devs. But 
the selling from Everyware to Pervasive and 
after to With for less as xx.xxx US$ have killed the application. With (Phil 
and Sophie) have make a great job with Witango 5 - no discussion. [They have 
only buy it, because it was cheaper as make a new development to his own 
customer].

But sorry, I think to spending more money into developers (and 
Reseller/Distributors) as in a new flat with a tennis play place and a pool and 
to work really on a new Witango version had can be the right way to make a very 
good products. The time of "garage"-developments with one person (Phil) is over.

Time to say good bye to Witango and to all of the group.

regards or in german:

Mit freundlichen Grüßen, 

Daniel Richardy

Formerly Witango Distributor for Germany, Austria, Switzerland (in one Word: 
Europe). 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Garcia 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Killing a database connection


  No, I agree. Witango is very particular. But in my experience, you aren't 
going to get much help on the witango side with that, so you are better off 
changing to mysql or mssql, or leaving witango.


  The number of issues that have been brought up with oracle in the past are 
very long. I am actually working with 2 companies that had oracle. I already 
converted one over to mysql, and the second one in the process. The second one, 
tried JDBC for oracle first, which was better, but mysql is about the most 
trouble free database to use with witango.


  I use PHP on my biggest projects, and have a couple of installations on 
oracle and I don't see the same issues that witango has.


  As a side note, I originally moved to mysql, just to have a more trouble free 
witango setup, which it DEFINITELY did. However, I became a huge mysql 
advocate, and am in love with its power and flexibility.


  Just food for thought. But to sum up, MANY on this list have come up against 
issues with oracle and witango, and there has been little to no resolution.



  -- 


  Robert Garcia
  President - BigHead Technology
  VP Application Development - eventpix.com
  13653 West Park Dr
  Magalia, Ca 95954
  ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
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  On Oct 1, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Shannon Henderson wrote:


    We use JDBC with Filemaker and OCI with Oracle. We're not having trouble 
with anything but Witango connections now. I'm finding it harder to believe 
that all of the driver creators got it wrong and Witango got it right...






    On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:


      The old database I used to use, would require this when for some reason 
witango would burp or lost connection. It was very frustrating, but I never 
found a way to just stop that one thread from the witango side. It should be 
noted, that other dbs don't require this. Both MS SQL 2000 and MySQL don't have 
this problem. I can reboot mysql, and leave witango alone, and it will 
reconnect. This led me to realize, it is more of an issue with the ODBC 
driver/db from the vendor. I experimented with other code and found this to be 
the case, outside of witango.


      What database do you use?



      -- 


      Robert Garcia
      President - BigHead Technology
      VP Application Development - eventpix.com
      13653 West Park Dr
      Magalia, Ca 95954
      ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
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      On Oct 1, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Shannon Henderson wrote:


        Does anyone know if it is possible to kill open database connections 
without restarting the witango server process?  We've had some cases lately 
where a connection will fail somewhere between the witango server and the 
database server.  Everything but witango recognizes that the session is dead 
and ditches it. Rather than starting a new session,  witango just keeps 
returning "113 Unable to communicate with the specified data source. The 
existing connection was lost."  on the old session until the datasource timeout 
kicks in.


        The problem is that the some other sessions are often fine, so I hate 
to kill off everything if I can tell that there are specific dead sessions.







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        Web Support Services
        Reed College
        Portland, OR 97202-8199
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