Robert, 

Thanks for the great explanations.

When you set the home directory in IIS to a share like
\\server1\webfiles\mysite, I see that this would satisfy the IIS requirement
in your statement "Each of the processes, the IIS process, and each Witango
Server process must all see the same files with the same path".

Does this share designation in IIS also satisfy the "Each of the processes
and each Witango Server process"? Or is there somewhere else I need to do
this? It seems like proper permissions and the Witango Client takes care of
this automatically.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Load Balancing Test

Its ok.

If you ONLY have 1 IIS server, then you are NOT doing DNS load  
balancing. If your IIS server is at IP 10.0.1.1, then your domain  
points to it, (www.mysite.com 10.0.1.1) then the is no dns load  
balancing. When the request comes into your IIS server, the witango  
plugin looks at the clients.ini file, and will load balance the  
requests across however many of witango servers you have. Each of the  
processes, the IIS process, and each Witango Server process must all  
see the same files with the same path.

DNS load balancing occurs when you have more than one IIS server for  
the same domain. You can have any number of IIS servers connecting to  
any number of witango servers. The IIS server may or may not be on  
the same server as the IIS servers.

When you have say 4 IIS servers, for the same domain, then there are  
a couple of ways to load balance. The first is with a hardware load  
balancer, which is expensive, but provides better switching upon the  
failure of a web server.

The easy method is called round robin load balancing. All it requires  
is that you enter multiple A records in your dns server for the same  
domain.

www.mysite.com A 10.0.1.1
www.mysite.com A 10.0.1.2
www.mysite.com A 10.0.1.3
www.mysite.com A 10.0.1.4

When the browser requests address for www.mysite.com it will get all  
of these, or randomly one. If it gets all, it will only try one. Load  
balancing this way works fairly well, but shows its weakness when a  
single IIS server dies. The you must alter your DNS to remove the  
entry of the faulty server. This is why it is best to enter a small  
TTL value for these multiple A records, like 30 minutes or so.

-- 

Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/

On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Fogelson, Steve wrote:

> Robert,
>
> I don't mean to question, but I would like to understand.
>
> I don't have IIS running on the second server. I don't understand  
> DNS load
> balancing, but are you running all of your Witango websites on both  
> of the
> servers that you are running IIS and the Witango Client and then  
> using DNS
> Load Balancing to spread the requests across both servers?
>
> If so, it makes sense to have the UNC notation you have indicated  
> below so
> you only have to place all the files in one location.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Load Balancing Test
>
> In IIS, you set the home directory as a share on another computer.
> You set the path using UNC notation, like \\server1\webfiles\mysite
> or whatever. This path must point to same files for the IIS server,
> and all witango services. I have a setup with 7 servers for instance.
> 2 IIS servers with witango plugins, and 6 witango servers and one
> file server they can all see with same UNC path.
>
> When IIS gets a request, it passes it on to witango service with
> path, and the witango service pulls the file and processes.
>
> -- 
>
> Robert Garcia
> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> 13653 West Park Dr
> Magalia, Ca 95954
> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>
> On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Fogelson, Steve wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> Where in Windows, IIS or Witango do you indicate or use this? My
>> setup is
>> working correctly without this.
>>
>> Unless:
>> Maybe because I have shares setup on each server with
>> Administrative Rights
>> as follows:
>> \\ics9\wwwroot
>> \\ics14\wwwroot
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:04 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Load Balancing Test
>>
>> Both servers need to have access to the files, and the web directory,
>> and the path to the files must be the same for both servers. LIke:
>>
>> \\Server1\webfiles\mysite\
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Robert Garcia
>> President - BigHead Technology
>> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
>> 13653 West Park Dr
>> Magalia, Ca 95954
>> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Fogelson, Steve wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I ran a test with the following setup.
>>>
>>> Server A will run one Witango service and the databases will reside
>>> here.
>>> Server B will run IIS, Witango Client and one Witango service
>>>
>>> Server B contains all the Witango and web files in the wwwroot
>>> folder. IIS
>>> is setup to run this website.
>>>
>>> Server A does not contain any Witango and web files for this
>>> application.
>>> IIS is not setup to run this web site.
>>>
>>> DNS points to the IIS website running on Server B.
>>>
>>> The apps runs fine repeatedly (closing the browser and opening a
>>> new one). I
>>> can tell which Witango Service is serving the browser because one
>>> of my
>>> Witango services is running on a 30 day trial license and the green
>>> trailer
>>> displays when the browser is using this service. Also the Witango
>>> log files
>>> on both servers show evidence of the app running on them.
>>>
>>> I am concluding that the Witango apps and html files only have to
>>> be placed
>>> on the server hosting the IIS service and Witango Client. In this
>>> test,
>>> server B. It appears that server A reads the Witango files from
>>> server B and
>>> caches them for further use.
>>>
>>> So it also appears that you only have to maintain one set of files
>>> on the
>>> IIS and Witango Client server. You don't need them on subsequent
>>> Witango
>>> servers included in the load balancing farm.
>>>
>>> Comments would be appreciated. Maybe everyone knows this and I just
>>> didn't
>>> get it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Steve Fogelson
>>> Internet Commerce Solutions
>>>
>>> FYI: Witango config for each server included below
>>>
>>> Server A
>>> witango.ini
>>> VALIDHOSTS=127.0.0.1:10.10.20.14
>>>
>>> client.ini
>>> [witango55_iis.dll]
>>> WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18155
>>>
>>> Server B
>>> witango.ini
>>> VALIDHOSTS=127.0.0.1
>>>
>>> client.ini
>>> WITANGO_SERVER=XXX14,127.0.0.1,18155:XXX9,10.10.20.9,18155
>>> CONNECTION_TIMEOUT=0
>>> FORCE_SERVER_ARG_NAME=_SrvID
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