Interesting on the doctype,
I am mainly using
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>
the one thing I did notice when IE7 came out was it got real anal on
var defining in JS
Before i could assign a var without the VAR preface
myVar = 1;
now I am always using the var in front
var myVar = 1;
I have not delv'd into those other doctypes, Thanks for the heads up.
on the naitiveGetElementById()
also most of my JS code is placed after the object, because IE
doesn't let you access the object from JS until it is there.
Ben
On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Beverly Voth wrote:
Thanks, Scott. I *only* use the xhtml1-transitional !DOCTYPE these days.
It's using the "document.getElementById()",
"document.nativeGetElementById()", "document.all()" test and branch that
helps. It's still a hack from my perspective. :D
Beverly
On 10/29/07 10:15 AM, "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
whole or in
part:
Hi Beverly,
My experience is not unlike Ben's. Scripting cross-platform is not
nearly as
painful as it used to be, except for some less-traveled corners of the
JavaScript DOM like reading/writing the body of nested IFRAME
documents,
dynamically assigning event handlers or managing XML objects.
The trick with getting MSIE 6 & 7 to play nice with the other
browsers is to
not allow MSIE to go into quirks-mode. This happens when you don't
set a
progressive !DOCTYPE definition, or if you do set one but don't
stick to the
requirements of said DOCTYPE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirks_mode
For example, I often use the following DTD,
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";
And as long as I stick to the XHTML 1.0 specs as much as possible,
then my
document stays out of quirks-mode and things like innerHTML and
getElementById
works as it should. In fact I regularly use the Gecko documentation
for all my
cross-browser work now, including MSIE 6 & 7.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Gecko_DOM_Reference
Note: MSIE 5 and earlier are a bit of write-off, as are other older
browsers,
but I don't see that as being a big deal these days when everyone
on the
planet "should" be running a modern version of their favorite
browser for
security reasons.
Hope that helps.
Scott,
On Monday, October 29, 2007 10:36am, Beverly Voth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
On 10/28/07 11:14 PM, "Ben Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
whole or in
part:
That's kinda interesting because JS is one of the main things Robert
has me doing ;-)
I think that is time sensitive advise, and I could understand in
early days where there was a lot of hoops you had to do to make JS
cross platform, now it is basically ubiquitous.
Except that it's NOT xplat now-a-days either. Check "innerHTML" and
"getElementById" in I.E. 7 and Opera....
Beverly
plus the advent of AJAX change people perception of JS for ever.
Ben
On Oct 28, 2007, at 7:39 PM, David Mark Weiss wrote:
Ben,
Thanks for the link.
Robert once told me to avoid JS at all costs. He said he was really
tough on his developers in justifying the use of it. Since then I
have been also trying to avoid it's use, but in this case, there
isn't a target attribute that I can see working. Also, when I have
used this kind of thing in the past, I has worked out just fine.
Mark Weiss
http://trustthechildren.blogspot.com
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