I would very very be interested and would be willing to pay Ben for help. I would still work in WT where I can but wold love to do more PHP if I had those tools that are some familiar to me in Witango.

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On Jan 25, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:

I have toyed with the best way to do that. I have built a forum for people to discuss the issues of witango porting to php, and a place to view code snippets and frameworks we have built. But its purely a volunteer thing, and so hard to find the time.

I have been thinking about it more, and I think the best thing to help the community may be just to release some code out there, and let you figure it out.

When I started my move to PHP, I picked a smaller site, but filled with complexity. http://www.binder-usa.com/ It is not large but has a lot of complex stuff for a small site. I created a framework for things like domain variables and stuff, and also had to build a framework for dealing with arrays. Witango 2 php is difficult, unless you build a way to get results sets in php, that you handle like you did in witango, then you can just do a lot of straight porting. So if you have 2 dimensional arrays in php, like you do all the time (resultsets) in witango, it gets much easier. But then, how do you <@filter, or any other type of tag in witango, in php, so I built lots of functions in php, that mimic things like @filter. You would be surprised how much faster they are also.

After I did this one site, I made the framework generic, and gave to other developers working for me to port other more complex witango sites, like eventpix.com. During this, the framework, and functions have been improved upon, especially by Ben Johansen, who has worked for me for the last 2 years or so.

All that to say, I am thinking of putting up the binder witango code, and the php port of it, available to download. But it would require the commitment of Ben also to support people on the forum that needed help with it, or updated functions. If Ben is willing, I think I can probably have this up for people within a month. I would really only take a coupe of days, but I say a month, because I am busy.

If you are interested in this, let me know. Also, Ben would have to commit to helping others voluntarily, because I don't think I could do by myself.

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On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Kent Swisher wrote:

To Robert Garcia

I have started developing in PHP but find it very slow to develop compared to witango. The old witango builder wizard worked for 80% of our stuff and I really miss it in PHP.

Did you ever publish your white paper on how to convert witango to Zend PHP? Would you consider sharing some of your custom functions? Do you use Zend Framework in your projects now?

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On 1/25/2008 1:31 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:
Thats not a good sign.
Present. Still have 2 large clients on witango, one is already being ported to Zend/PHP, the other looks like it will go this year. The thing is, even if witango gets v6 out the door, it has become SO FAR BEHIND when it comes to features and reliability. Then couple that with the fact that is extremely expensive, it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind picking witango as a new dev platform, unless they have a client or legacy app to support.
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> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
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