Yeah... sorry, I meant the corporate version. Over $22,000 - server only. I 
think the studio was 500 - 700 - in that range.


-----Original message-----
From: Robert Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:47:54 -0600
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update

> Don't you mean the CORPORATE version? Professional is multi  
> processors, same server, corporate, was multi server same domain,  
> wasn't it? And I remember that was pricey, geez. I spent at least that  > 
> amount, but across many standard licenses.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Robert Garcia
> President - BigHead Technology
> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> 13653 West Park Dr
> Magalia, Ca 95954
> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
> 
> On Feb 11, 2008, at 1:42 PM, WebDude wrote:
> 
> > I agree with you Robert. The only places I can host Witango apps is  > 
> > on my own servers. There really are no other alternatives except  
> > maybe a few on this list. Funny, I host php, asp,and .net for other  > 
> > developers on my servers, yet I could not, without a very difficult  > 
> > search, host my apps somewhere else.
> >
> > Another bone in the craw is the amount we spent on the original. My  > 
> > problem is I have not updated. I am still running 2000 and it is so  > 
> > stable and I have had no issues that it is very hard for me to move  > 
> > on to something newer. I am currently getting around one million  
> > visitors a month on 2 IIS servers (and one separate db server) and I  > 
> > plan on adding another IIS server. SO this would mean I would need  
> > at least two licenses, probably 3 if I cannot get an upgrade. I  
> > bought professional 2000 back in the day. You remember how much that  > 
> > one cost -- The reason I bought professional is because I could put  > 
> > it on as many servers as I wanted. Of course you had to pay for that  > 
> > privilage. Now I almost wish I would have purchased individual  
> > licenses... it would have been a lot, LOT cheaper in the end.
> >
> >
> > From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:19 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
> >
> > The thing is, even if the dev studio is great, and cheap, you have  
> > to have places to host your stuff, and there are very few choices,  
> > so devs will have to host themselves more than any other platform.  
> > With .net and php, you can host all over the place, coldfusion, more  > 
> > choices, but not as much as php and .net. The .net server, is really  > 
> > just windows web edition, or $300. IMHO, the witango server, being  
> > by far the underdog, needs to be at the highest point, $699.
> >
> > I think these new prices are great, and I think they will definitely  > 
> > help stop the bleeding of devs to other places who already have a  
> > witango investment. But I don't see them bring in new developers,  
> > again, just my opinion.
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Robert Garcia
> > President - BigHead Technology
> > VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> > 13653 West Park Dr
> > Magalia, Ca 95954
> > ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
> >
> > On Feb 11, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:
> >
> >> I agree too, cost is high.
> >> CF8 Server is $1299.00 full, and upgrade is $649.00
> >> Visual Studio Pro 2008 $799.00 - Upgrade: $499.00
> >> So, are we looking at Q3 for the full release?
> >> I’ll be interested to see what the new features are, and test the  > 
> >> beta. Good work Phil!
> >> Rick
> >> From: GK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: February-11-08 3:46 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
> >> I agree with Robert. The server cost is still a bit high. The  
> >> strength of WiTango is the studio. It would be great if it could  
> >> export php code. Nonetheless, this is a good breakthrough and hope  > 
> >> to see the community grow.
> >>
> >> George Kassyousef
> >> Phenomena Technologies Inc
> >> www.phenomenatech.com
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:24:01 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango Version 6 - Community Update
> >>
> >> These are great changes, too late for BigHead, but maybe not for
> >> others. I think the studio price is spot on. I still think the server
> >> should be sub 1000, but just my opinion. Good to see the change to  > 
> >> one
> >> machine license.
> >>
> >> What does "open sourced under its own license" mean?
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Robert Garcia
> >> President - BigHead Technology
> >> VP Application Development - eventpix.com
> >> 13653 West Park Dr
> >> Magalia, Ca 95954
> >> ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
> >>
> >> On Feb 11, 2008, at 4:59 AM, Phil Wade wrote:
> >>
> >> > WITANGO COMMUNITY UPDATE
> >> > ------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Th Witango 6 development project is now drawing to a close and in
> >> > the coming weeks a full public beta of both studio and server will
> >> > be released. The full release of Witango 6 will be accompanied by
> >> > significant changes to both pricing and licensing,  we therefore
> >> > take this opportunity to update the community as we move forward.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > New Licensing
> >> > -------------
> >> > Once the beta testing has been completed and version 6 goes into
> >> > release, the source code for both the server and studio will be  
> >> open
> >> > sourced under its own license.  Witango will continue to be a
> >> > commercial product and a license will need to be purchased. There
> >> > will be 3 editions of the Server:
> >> >
> >> > The Lite edition - no change to current license conditions
> >> > The Developer edition - no change to current license conditions.
> >> > The Professional edition - single machine license, with no
> >> > limitation on number of processes or CPUs.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > New Pricing
> >> > -----------
> >> > Witango Studio v6 US$199
> >> >
> >> > Witango Studio upgrade - US$99
> >> >
> >> > Witango Server Lite - Free
> >> > Witango Server Developer Edition - Free with studio
> >> > Witango Server Professional - US$1499
> >> >
> >> > Witango Server Upgrade from v5.5 - US$999
> >> > Witango Server Upgrade from pre v5.5 - US$1299
> >> >
> >> > Those customers who own Witango 5.5 professional edition servers
> >> > will have the option at the time of upgrade to upgrade their server
> >> > to two (2) Witango 6 Professional edition licenses for US$1499.
> >> >
> >> > Witango licenses will only be available direct from Witango
> >> > Technologies and no further discount will apply.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Your Enquiries
> >> > -----------
> >> > A comprehensive outline of new features will be available on  
> >> release
> >> > of the beta.  We understand many of you will have questions, please
> >> > direct them off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will compile a FAQ and
> >> > post back to the list.
> >> >
> >> > It has been a long term goal for Witango Technologies to move
> >> > Witango to an Open Source product, with simplified and affordable
> >> > licensing.  Witango v6 therefore represents a major milestone for
> >> > us.  We would also take his opportunity to thank our development
> >> > team who have worked with consistent enthusiasm and considerable
> >> > effort in preparing the code for open source.
> >> >
> >> >  
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