On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Robert Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have seen this on witango, with oracle the worst, also does it in mssql,
> but for some reason, it is NOT a problem with MySQL.
>

I had the problem with JDBC / MySQL or MSSQL, but don't have the problem
with ODBC / MySQL or MSSQL.


> You can reboot a mysql server, and witango will just reconnect when back
> up, when you can't do that with others. There have been lots of discussions
> on this re oracle especially, and no good work arounds were found except to
> switch DB vendors or move off of witango.
>
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> On Oct 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, John McGowan wrote:
>
> When we went to Linux servers, we also went with JDBC instead of ODBC for
> connections, because I wasn't that familiar with setting up ODBC in a Linux
> environment.  Witango doesn't seem to like fixing broken JDBC connections as
> easily as it does ODBC connections.  I eventually had time to get
> comfortable setting up ODBC in Linux, and have moved back to ODBC because of
> the problems mentioned in this thread.
>
> /John
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Shannon Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> All of the solutions, except for resetting the datasourcelife, require
>> some server side monitoring.
>>
>> I haven't done it, but in theory this should work.  If you check for
>> <@error number1=113> and set a value somewhere, you could run a cronjob to
>> check for the value and restart the server if necessary.  You might be able
>> to monitor your logs for the same error and restart the server then.
>> We use a cron that executes a witango app that has a single db call
>> (something like select 'x' from dual) and returns an error if it fails.  We
>> decided not to be specific about the error.  If the app gets any error, we
>> restart the server. Of course the downside to this is that it looks like
>> your witango server is acting up if your database server is unavailable for
>> some reason. We found that most of our production db connectivity errors
>> were this one so it hasn't really been an issue.
>>
>> I wish I could be more help, but frankly we've pretty much given up making
>> this better. We've got our duct tape and bailing wire solution that will
>> hopefully hold out until we can replace it with something more stable.
>>
>> -sh
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2008, at 1:18 PM, MC Tay wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Shannon for your tips. How do I trap 113 error and restart the
>> Witango programmatically? Is it on the Witango side?
>>
>> When we have both the app and db on the same server, it works fine. You
>> are right, the problem with the remote db connection could due to firewall,
>> drop packet etc.
>>
>> MC
>>
>>
>> At 09:36 AM 10/13/2008, you wrote:
>>
>> It's a known issue, and it is not specific to Oracle.  We've seen the same
>> error frequently for Filemaker JDBC and Oracle connections for a couple of
>> years now. The best solution anyone has come up with is to trap the error
>> and then issue a restart to the server process.  There does not appear to be
>> an easy way to kill off the specific connection.
>>
>> It appears that the error occurs when the database connection is not
>> properly closed, usually due to some networking interference (dropped
>> packets, firewall killing idle connections, etc.) We were able to reduce the
>> number of failures by eliminating some of the potential points of networking
>> failure between servers A and B. If your database server is remote, this may
>> not be an option for you. The other thing we did was make sure the
>> DATASOURCELIFE was set to be shorter than likely network timeouts. This
>> created a separate problem in Oracle 9+ where idle sessions were left on the
>> Oracle side, eventually using up all of the available users and
>> significantly annoying our dba, so we ended up scheduling witango server
>> restarts anyway to clear those.
>>
>> Depending on your setup, namely the number of connections and the amount
>> of site traffic  you're talking about, you can try trapping the 113 error
>> and then setting the DATASOURCELIFE to 0, immediately hitting the same db
>> connection again (to timeout the datasource). Then you reset the
>> DATASOURCELIFE to it's previous setting. That should force the connection to
>> be retried the third time most of the time. This works pretty well in our
>> dev environment, but it turned out to be impractical with the sheer number
>> of connections we work with in production.
>>
>> A couple of people have contacted me on and off list saying they've had
>> the same issues, so I'm sure a few of us would be happy to hear of a better
>> solution should you come across one.
>>
>> --sh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2008, at 12:55 AM, MC Tay wrote:
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I have encountering lost database connection and need some help.
>>
>> I have a Witango application (Server A) accessing Oracle database (Server
>> B) on a remote site. It works fine not until may be 2-3 hours later the
>> database connection is lost. I have to restart Witango service on Server A
>> and it works again. But, few hours later the database connection is lost
>> again.
>>
>> Any idea how to fix this and is it a known problem?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> MC
>>
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