I had the same view as you, Scott, but had to move to Vista about 6 months
ago for development reasons. I was pleasantly surprised at how stable Vista
was and the UX wasn't that bad (omg User Access Control) after tweaking some
personalization settings. I run Vista on two laptops and my home PC now and
the experience is the same across teh board.
Further, I had the opportunity to talk to a cynical ex-MS employee a couple
weeks ago and he told me that the majority of the stability issues that
Vista had were due to the introduction of a new driver model in the Vista
kernel. Apparently "the people that code drivers are the worst programmers
in the world". Windows 7 is supposed to use the same kernel as Vista, so
hopefully we shouldn't see a repeat of the same issues.
For the record (and to not be a complete derail), I also run OS X 10.5 on
those two laptops and after experiencing the OS X WiTango developer UX with
5.0 I switched to using Windows and haven't gone back. <3 OS X, </3 WiTango
on OS X.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Ben Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amazingly enough Microsoft acknowledges this and is working to get Windows
> 7 (at least that was what was in the paper a few weeks ago)
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:
>
> To me it's analogous to many Windows developers
>>> staying on XP because it's more stable than Vista.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Very true John, about 2 weeks ago I reinstalled my main desktop machine
>> for some bigger/faster hard drives and there was no question - XP it was,
>> and so XP it still is.
>>
>> Vista sux!
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov-13-2008, at 1:25 PM, John Carrieri wrote:
>>
>> I develop on the Mac and witango works fine
>>> under 10.4. In addition we run it on both
>>> 10.4 and 10.5 servers.
>>>
>>> Servers:
>>> 10.4 Very stable
>>> 10.5 Works when stripping out 64 bit code. ( via Dale's prior posts)
>>>
>>> Dev Studio:
>>> 10.4 Stable ( I run on my desktop)
>>> 10.5 Works for editing tafs, just can't modify db connections
>>> (I run it on my laptop)
>>>
>>> While I would appreciate an update for the studio
>>> to work with 10.5, we all know that the focus right
>>> now for Phil is to get v6 out. I would just work
>>> under 10.4 right now for the Dev Studio or run
>>> windows under Vmware or Parallels as suggested.
>>> To me it's analogous to many Windows developers
>>> staying on XP because it's more stable than Vista.
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/08 5:15 AM, "Graham Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I agree with Dan. Though a Mac person, I have had to
>>>> bite the bullet and use Witango under Windows. You can still use the
>>>> Mac WitangoServer to test, though ('cause we've had trouble with the
>>>> Windows Witangoserver!) Hooray for dual systems.
>>>>
>>>> On [Nov 13 -2008 ], at 8:03 AM, Dan Stein wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If I was you I would install VM Ware Fusion and run everything under
>>>>> windows I have never been able to get things working right with the
>>>>> Mac version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe at this point Phil would give you a free version change for
>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Life is a lot simpler with Witango and Windows and i am a Mac person.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dan Stein
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "There is a larger frame to the painting than the one that bounds
>>>>> our life's events."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Brian Humes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just installed Leopard on my Mac and I'm having problems getting
>>>>>> Witango studio to connect to my data sources.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using OpenLink's single-tier drivers to connect to our MS SQL
>>>>>> Server 2005 box. I have updated the driver to the 10.5 version, but
>>>>>> still no luck. When I open the studio, the list of available
>>>>>> databases appears in the Workspace window, but when I click the
>>>>>> triangle to toggle one of them open, I get the small "Loading"
>>>>>> screen and then the whole application suddenly quits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried installing the Actual Technology drivers, but they're
>>>>>> even worse. I understand that JDBC is not an option either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know this has been volleyed about, but I can't seem to find
>>>>>> anything relating to MS SQL Server in the archives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone gotten this to work? Any help would be greatly
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Humes
>>>>>> Director, Interactive
>>>>>> JohnsonRauhoff
>>>>>> 269-428-9257 (direct)
>>>>>> 269-428-3377 (main)
>>>>>> 269-428-3312 (fax)
>>>>>> www.johnson-rauhoff.com
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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